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selmar (4 posts)
Aug-06-01, 11:42 AM (EST) "worried" i just got train sim and it rocks, so i went to trainsim.com to download something, after visiting some other sites, i noticed that there are way to many comercial products to be released. It worries me seeing this early on that allready so many sites have gone comercial, that we wont have any nice trains for free anymore. it shouldnt start to turn out like the FS scene where the amount of comercial products is getting more and more, and freeware is getting less and less.
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: worried matt_b Aug-06-01 1 RE: worried buzzbenz Aug-06-01 2 RE: worried BNSF Aug-14-01 10 RE: worried buzzbenz Aug-14-01 11 RE: worried Nels_Anderson Aug-06-01 3 RE: worried selmar Aug-07-01 4 PS: selmar Aug-07-01 5 PAYWARE SUCKS xenomorph Aug-14-01 6 PAYWARE IS FAIR Euston Aug-14-01 7 RE: PAYWARE IS FAIR SCL Aug-14-01 8 RE: PAYWARE IS FAIR Denisky Aug-14-01 9 RE: PAYWARE IS FAIR Nightstar2001 Aug-15-01 13 RE: PAYWARE SUCKS buzzbenz Aug-14-01 12

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matt_b (18 posts)
Aug-06-01, 11:52 AM (EST) 1. "RE: worried" I much prefer the system with other games, you have to pay for a license to release commercial addons. Although I do have faith that many people will release good quality models for free. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
buzzbenz (178 posts)
Aug-06-01, 01:47 PM (EST) 2. "RE: worried" If you are into Amtrak at all, don't worry, there will be lots of stuff for free. Hopefully you'll think they're good !----- BUZZ Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
BNSF (118 posts)
Aug-14-01, 07:09 PM (EST) 10. "RE: worried" Hey Buzz are you a modeler? If so I personally would like to see a P-42 modled. In Acela colors too. Gee, I love those things they are my favorate locos.
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buzzbenz (178 posts)
Aug-14-01, 08:09 PM (EST) 11. "RE: worried" In time, i would like to create as much Amtrak from the 1980's on up as i can. Right now, i am still learning A LOT! That is why my baggage car has taken so long. However, i am wondering if you are referring to a different loco. The P-42 (aka Genesis aka AMD103) comes with the game and has already been re-worked to be driveable. I cannot re-paint it into anything other than Amtrak Phase III as MS texture mapping bites. For some reason, the peice of the cab between the windshield and the side windows is pulled from the middle of the body! I will get a much better version of it done that should be fairly straightforward to repaint, but that is a baggage car, F40PH, and AEM7 away!------- BUZZ Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Nels_Anderson (454 posts)
Aug-06-01, 06:00 PM (EST) 3. "RE: worried" Some people have such short memories...You should hope it DOES turn out like the flightsim world, where there is more free stuff now than there ever was in the past. There is also more good payware stuff now than ever. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
selmar (4 posts)
Aug-07-01, 09:01 AM (EST) 4. "RE: worried" maybe it should turn out like the FS world in someways (i do hope that there will be more respect in the TS world than FS world), but then again, all those very good payware products are all out of alot of peoples grasps, why, because most of the people out there including me are under 18 and dont have credit cards. meaning that these products cant be purchased by us. It's easy for people above 18 to say that there is only sunshine in the sky concerning both TS and FS. And yes, if i had my own credit card i would say yes, i would be able to buy great high quality products, but unfortunatly that isn't the case.
please dont act so mad about this post, it's just my opinion! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
selmar (4 posts)
Aug-07-01, 09:02 AM (EST) 5. "PS:" and no i'm not one of those people who thinks there shouldnt be any payware, i think a mix of freeware and payware is great Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
xenomorph (10 posts)
Aug-14-01, 01:01 PM (EST) 6. "PAYWARE SUCKS" PAYWARE SUCKS OK Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Euston (99 posts)
Aug-14-01, 03:04 PM (EST) 7. "PAYWARE IS FAIR" Hey, that ain't nice, everyone has a right to expect some revenue for the $4000 odd they invested on 3ds.Euston

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SCL (35 posts)
Aug-14-01, 05:06 PM (EST) 8. "RE: PAYWARE IS FAIR" I can't see what the problem is with some people regarding payware. Just because it's available on the net doesn't have to mean it's free. It supposed to be forward-moving technology and buying stuff on the net is part of that.I reckon you have to ask the question: If I was in a S/ware shop and saw this item in a box on a shelf would I buy it? S/shots are not always helpful, and are nearly always flattering to the subject, so the box a/w is not always a great guide as to quality of content. Like most bits of software you buy you are always taking a chance - even well known brand names have been known to turn out rubbish now and then(!)If I knew I was getting something I wanted - and especially if it included the bmp and tga a/w, I don't think it's unreasonable to pay a price for it. If someone wants to do it for FREE, then that's even better. The bottom line is, just how grabbing is this community going to get? Does the MSTS community really expect people to work for maybe hundreds of hours for free just to suit their cravings? Is that fair or even realistic?Anyway, that's my theory about dinosaurs...... Cheers
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Denisky (16 posts)
Aug-14-01, 05:08 PM (EST) 9. "RE: PAYWARE IS FAIR"
those who can't, complain.
I for one want to thank all the artists, and you are artists, for all the time and effort spent on some fantastic rolling stock and locomotives. If there is a charge for somthing I like, so be it. Heck if I had all the money I spent on computer games, thru the years. thanksDenisky Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Nightstar2001 (34 posts)
Aug-15-01, 01:33 AM (EST) 13. "RE: PAYWARE IS FAIR" Well sadly they really wasted there money from what I've seen there are programs of much less cost a reasonable $50. And from the looks a great product to be released Abacus who has released great products for Flightsim. So maybe you should be complaining about how little foresight you had.Andrew Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
buzzbenz (178 posts)
Aug-14-01, 08:10 PM (EST) 12. "RE: PAYWARE SUCKS" Then don't buy it. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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