What would you like to see in an 'official' MSTS add-on

If MS/Kuju - likely in co-operation with a 3d party - was to release an 'official' add-on for MSTS, containing both extra routes and rolling stock and add-ons for the default routes and stock, what'd you like to see the most?My 'wishlist':1. A US 1930 steam route (for example Horseshoe curve) with all the goodies - heavyweight passenger cars, mix of wood and steel freight cars and cabooses, you name it2. A modern-day continental-Europe non-electric route, with the possibility to run both mainline passenger, branch-line passenger, local freight and switching duties. Rolling stock would include passenger DMUs, diesel freight and switching locos.3. A modern-day Japanese electric Shinkansen route - giving us a REAL high-speed route at lastFor the default Hisatsu route: A small diesel locomotive and freight cars, giving us the possibility to operate some freight on the route.For the default NEC route: An AEM-7 and Silverliners are obvious. Perhaps some Conrail/CSX freight stuff. An extension of the route to NYC would also be nice.For the default Tokyo-Hakone route: Don't know of much of this route, but perhaps a further trainset (10000 class) and a real-looking 30000EXE.For the default St.Anton-Innsbruck route: Freight cars for the Gölsdorf 380, enabling freight operations on the route. A small steam switcher to enable switching operations.For the default Settle-Carlisle route: Well, basically what they could do was just include 3DTrainStuff's LMS Steam & Freight pack, giving us the possibility to operate fairly protypical freight operations on the route. Perhaps also include the AI steam engine shown in some of the early clips released of the game, but not in the game itself (I think it was a Duchess class?)For the default Marias Pass: Get TrainArtisan to further refine their BNSF SD70MAC and Bethgon coalhoppers. And throw in an AI B40-8P Genesis and some real-looking Superliners.

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AN ALL AUSSIE ADD-ONThough the chances of that are quite low. I'd kill for that. Please ask me to kill for that!As for existing stuff, I'd like to see an extension of Tokyo-Hakone, as shown on the Odakyu site, with more Shinkansen trains and more activities that fully utilise the stations, traffic and signals.-----------------------------------FORMERLY 'THE KOZIOL' BEFORE THE STUPID DELETED USERNAMES DISASTERAL QAEDA IS SUSPECTED

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>As for existing stuff, I'd like to see an extension of
>Tokyo-Hakone, as shown on the Odakyu siteWhich site would that be?

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My votes would go to the following subjects:
* An electrified modern-day European mainline done to the same quality as the Pro Train and German Railroads series (though I do not insist on a German scenario...France, Italy or Switzerland would be fine, too)
* A Shinkansen line (well, that was obvious, no? )
* Perhaps a South African route - because I believe Africa has been overlooked almost completely until now.
* Alternatively, a South American line would be a nice change of pace, too - perhaps that Argentine narrow-gauge line across the Andes?
* As for North America, I would like to see the electrified Pacific section (is that the correct name?) of the Milwaukee Road, complete with Little Joes, EP-2s and those other electric monsters.
Dominik Mann Visit www.tssf.de - www.bahn.de - http://mercurio.iet.unipi.it/ - www.eisenbahnforum.de

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A Scandinavian addon would be pretty nice. Like maybe the Malmbanan from Kiruna to Riksgränsen in it's early days with prototypical electric and steam rollingstock like in the pictures shown below

For more information about the line go to this site http://www.algonet.se/~justus/railways/rw23malm.htm

Steam rules!

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>A Scandinavian addon would be pretty nice. Like maybe the
>Malmbanan from Kiruna to Riksgränsen in it's early days with
>prototypical electric and steam rollingstock like in the
>pictures shown below I think, we have something which looks like that electric locomotive for MSTS.

------My favourite LUL train------

HAPPY NOW? It's not moving anymore.
It's still the same train but in another livery, that's all.

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Working on a route which is strongly inspired from the "Malmbanan", but is a fictional route. Anyway, good opportunities to use the rolling stocks used on the real "Malmbanan". A lot of the rolling stock used at Malmbanan is already avaible in MSTS.

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Modern day: Donner Pass with some SD90s and AC4400s
Olden day: SA&AP (San Antonio & Aransas Pass) with 2-6-0s and 4-4-0s
Plus all of the North American stuff that everyone has mentioned.
-Sam

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Ah, SAAP would be nice, as would H&TC, T&NO, the Tin Can (Texas Central)

Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas

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Besides the obvious easier route editor, I'd say for the actual game, here's what I'd have...1) Actually, going back to the route editor, I'd say the ability to run circular routes, for those of us Amusement and museum train fanatics2) A small American steamer, nothing too big,3) As previously said, some heavyweight cars4) Better sounds5) In-game consist editor6) MORE COMMUTER STUFF!!!!!!!I think that's all for now.-Matt, future Cirque Du Soleil singer-Crime: It's my anti drug -Creating Pac-Man comics for the humorless people out there

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My only wish
The Loctrol LSI package so i can remotely control helper locomotives, something that is sorely lacking
BNSF Detector Milepost 666.
No defect
Train Speed 66.6mph
Axle Count: 666
Ambient Temperature 66.6 degrees
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I'm otherwise known as the SatanTrain

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>for those of us Amusement and museum train fanaticsAnd don't forget the model layout builders! /Jonatan

Steam rules!

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Oh, and also, OPENING DOORS on all passenger cars should be mandatory, because that boosts the realism level waaaayy up.-Matt, future Cirque Du Soleil singer-Crime: It's my anti drug -Creating Pac-Man comics for the humorless people out there

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>1) Actually, going back to the route editor, I'd say the
>ability to run circular routes, for those of us Amusement
>and museum train fanatics You can do that now. The Ohio Rails route generally runs in a big loop, and if they added Rich Garbers suggestion for Trainz support you could add your amusement trains.

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Oh, and one more thing: The ability to place other cars in explore mode.

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• A complete NYC Subway System and the Staten Island Railway. Rolling stock included are the R32s, R38s, R40Ms, R42s, R44s, R46s, R62/As, R68/As, R142/As, R143s, and some worker cars/locomotives... and maybe the Redbirds (R26/28/29/33/36/WF) for those who love them so much as well as miss them (nearly all of them have retired).That's it!

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I would have to say I would like to see MSTS become a better simulator. Look at all the detail put into the premier flight sims on the market today. Then compare that to MSTS. It would be nice to see locomotives that you would have to "fire up" and get running before operating if you so choose. Also the equiptment currently availble is very forgiving. It would be nice to see locomotives that could overheat when worked too hard or random faults that occured because of wear. I also have to agree that sound improvements would be greatly appreciated. A train just isn't a train without the noise. Besides what everyone else said thats about all I can think of. Have a good week!
Power On!
Jerry

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Gosh, I can't think of anything we don't already have, rolling stock and locomotive related.Route wise, A modified and redone german ProTrains route, with better scenery and textures, as the first two were done very early on in MSTS, and could use a upgrade.Also, a route I would love to run, the CSX ex-Chessie route from Washington DC to Cumberland Maryland, by way of Brunswick, Harpers Ferry WV, and Martinsburg WV. A little bit of everything on this route, bridges, tunnels, rivers, cities, towns, commuter, and frieght op's, as well as a power plant for the coal train lovers.UP's Donner Pass, but in the SP days, and BNSF's sub from Barstow to Kingman, and or, Needles to Winslow AZ.Just a wish list.............

Chris Bogley
Ft. Huachuca AZ,
www.msnusers.com/Tehachapi (Updated 4/8/2003)

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I'd Say a Canadian Commuter route.
GO Transit around Toronto. with all the lines, To Geulph Jct, Hamilton, Oshawa, George town.
With Union Station.

Rob.
Mile 21.0 CN Oakville Sub.

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A patch that would fix all the half finished buggy garbage they shipped it out the door with.

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Let me go one step further than you Jim...RE: What would you like to see in an 'official' MSTS???TRAINZ SUPPORT!!!LOL!!!! Rich Garber

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I'll second that, and add to it.I'd really like to see the entire Southern Ontario network on one big route - I'd find that worth upgrading my computer for. CN & CP routes from well east of Toront to well to the west, would allow passenger working (Via and GO) as well as Freight. And we can add in the heritage lines in the area (Durham, South Simcoe, Port Stanley, & Halton County Radial ). Then for there's the subway and streetcar routes in Toronto. Most of this can be linked up. And of course appropriate rolling stock. It would be fun to be running past the Davisville TTC yard in the cab of a GO or Via train, or perhaps one of the few freights. Or be held at Pickering in a CN freight until a GO train has come past - provided the wait wasn't too long.If we wanted to get historical, we can have the abondoned lines which used to cover the entire area - or perhaps we should have those a separate route - this is getting quite massive. No really steep grades to provide challenge, but an intricate network with a lot of variety.CheersJohn

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New York Penn/Grand Central-Rutland/Montreal
New York Penn-Montauk
New York Subway
Los Angeles-Oakland/San Francisco
Roma-Palermo/Syracusa
Boston-Philadelphia
Washington-Newport News
Quebec City-Windsor
Oakland-Salt Lake City
etc...

MTA New York City Subway
John

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"TRAINZ SUPPORT!!!", Rich, you are evil!

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Santa Fe from Dearborn Station Chicago to Kansas City!
CB&Q "Race Track" Union Station Chicago to Aurora or even Galesburg...
ATSF/CB&Q/DRGW Joint Line Denver to Colorado Springs....Jim Duncan

Jim Duncan
Team GM&O

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LOL! Couldn't resist!

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>Roma-Palermo/Syracusa And then to Messina, Venice and Naples!( I had to do that). You also forget the unforgetable! The NEW HAVEN LINE! That must be done including the Branches with both Penn Station and GCT!!
-NHtrain

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My request is simple. All the rail lines ever build in the world, including all rolling stock ever designed. -Jeff

Union Pacific is my drug.

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Hmmm...may need to get a larger hard drive.Actually, I'd like to see an American steam route, a big city subway system (like that in New York)and an African route (maybe even through the jungle - is there such a route?). Most of these had already been mentioned, but, hey, more votes couldn't hurt. I'd also like to see the former C&NW commuter routes (now Metra) but that's a personal preference since I grew up close to Chicago's Northwest Line.

Mr. Fred

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Hmmmmm....1. Boston/NYC NEC, 1940's version
2. Boston/NYC NEC, Modern day version
3. San Francisco/LA Coast Line, 1940s version
4. San Francisco/LA Coast Line, Modern day version (with Caltrain)
5. Donner Pass, any version but Modern would be nice

Santa Fe...all the way
(was chiefted but my profile disappeared)

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There are a couple of routes I would like to see. The first is the Moffat tunnel route from Denver to Grand Junction. This should also include the branch line to Craig, Colorado. The second would be the Royal Gorge Route from Pueblo to Grand Junction. If done properly, these 2 routes could complement each other because the meet at Dotsero, Colorado just before entering Glenwood Canyon.

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I would like to see some interaction with a dispatcher. Even an AI dispatcher would be fun. Let's hear some radio chatter.

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