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tvrailCharter Member · 68 posts

So, I think someone might have asked this before, but give me a short reply to the question:What is 'The Route' you have downloaded and will not delete from the hard drive no-matter-what? And tell me also why you like it so much and will not delete it.My own is the Full Bucket Line, absolutely. I fell in love to it when the Version 1 came out and I have had it since. I deleted it in favour of Version 2 only.I like it becouse it is extremely FPS-friendly, and above all, it is truly generic. And without a doubt, the best one I have had. I have never had so much fun with any other route that the FBL and its successors.

TVRail
President & CEO, Dakota Eastern Railroad
Member of Yonder Locomotive Works

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RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Mr Fred, Feb-19-03, 01:27 PM, (1) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, BLW_1946, Feb-19-03, 01:48 PM, (2) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Jonatan, Feb-19-03, 01:52 PM, (3) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, SVTS, Feb-19-03, 03:08 PM, (4) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, buzzbenz, Feb-19-03, 08:06 PM, (11) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Dash9_Man, Feb-19-03, 04:26 PM, (5) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Swissie, Feb-20-03, 10:05 AM, (18) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, FullBucket, Feb-20-03, 11:05 AM, (20) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Swissie, Feb-20-03, 11:55 AM, (21) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, FullBucket, Feb-20-03, 12:11 PM, (23) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, zachattack, Feb-20-03, 12:08 PM, (22) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, FullBucket, Feb-20-03, 12:15 PM, (24) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Swissie, Feb-20-03, 01:29 PM, (25) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Shepley1935, Feb-19-03, 06:33 PM, (6) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, IcyFire, Feb-19-03, 07:00 PM, (7) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, TrainTrak5000, Feb-19-03, 07:05 PM, (8) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, JonN, Feb-19-03, 07:55 PM, (9) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, heffed, Feb-19-03, 08:01 PM, (10) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, shoskins, Feb-19-03, 08:57 PM, (12) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, pacmancreator, Feb-19-03, 09:30 PM, (13) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Vince, Feb-20-03, 02:52 AM, (14) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Mr Fred, Feb-20-03, 10:28 AM, (19) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Jonatan, Feb-20-03, 04:01 AM, (15) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, wdq4587, Feb-20-03, 04:23 AM, (16) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, kevarc, Feb-20-03, 09:28 AM, (17) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, jhender501, Feb-20-03, 01:39 PM, (26) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, henry3, Feb-20-03, 01:55 PM, (27) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, jhender501, Feb-20-03, 02:05 PM, (28) RE: Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete, Cosmo, Feb-20-03, 02:29 PM, (29)

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Mr FredMember since Jan-31-03 · 19 posts

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Just one?!...Okay, my vote would go for Rich Garber's "Ohio and WV RR." This has it all, great engines and rolling stock, fun activities, mountains, rivers, big cities, small towns, industries, train yards and even a tugboat! But I wouldn't want to live without FBL, Dual Fantasy, East Metro, N&JC, etc...etc...Mr. Fred

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BLW_1946Member since Sep-9-02 · 75 posts

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Ditto on Ohio Rail - I never tire of it!Close seconds would be FBL, PO&N, Dogskill, ADFRR, LV, the NZ timber route, Hoogsdam, North of England, Swansea, Sandpatch, KHP, Bear Mountain, Pobla, Natural King 07, Zd-Ekz, SDA2, and Marias 3.1But Ohio Rail has it all...Tim

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SVTSCharter Member · 1174 posts

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If were talking payware, it would be the soon to be released Tehachapi.If were talking freeware, gosh ,that is a tough one. So many great routes. The great part is it is so easy to copy the folders onto CD to make room for others. But back to your question, if i was to keep just one freeware route, it would have to be Robert Reedys ADFRR.Just for poops and giggles, heres a list of my fav's in some order:Tehachapi, ADFRR, HooDoo Pass, Cajon, Sandpatch, KHP, CSX Funnel, MP3, PO&N6, CSX Blueridge, Dogskill, Crawford Hill, EMRR, German Railroads, San Diego and Arizona, BNSF Seattle, and Conrail Indy.

Chris Bogley
Ft. Huachuca AZ
http://groups.msn.com/Tehachapi (Update Coming Soon!)

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buzzbenzCharter Member · 588 posts

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I'll agree with Mr. Fred on that!Ohio Rail is also great for BOTH freight AND passenger activities! I'm having a blast just running Amtrak trains (and NJT seems to have loaned the Ohio Rail some test consists as well ).And i'll also agree though that i could also not bear to part with ADFRR, FBL, EMRR, and so on!------ BUZZ ------
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Dash9_ManMember since Jan-30-03 · 35 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-19-03 AT 04:28 PM (EDT)

Geese, thats a tough one. Especially considering how many that I have. Either Crawford Hill or the Full Bucket Line. Some of my others are:PO&N 6, CSX Blueridge, San Diego & Arizona, CSX Florida Funnel
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SwissieMember since Sep-27-02 · 140 posts

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> P.S.-What is the difference between FBL 1 and FBL 2? Anything worth redownloading?Dash9_Man,FBL 2 is about 2.5 times the track length of FBL 1, a new double track mainline in the south, and some additional short branch into a rocket test center (see below).Question : Name of 'The Route' you will not Delete – image 26
Now that makes the engineer wonder: The sign says no trespassing, but the signal still shows "approach"?

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The small thingy in the foreground is the train...But I wouldn't worry downloading FBL 2 now. Bjoern did repeatedly post some previews of FBL 3 in the route builders forum recently, and judging from how these look, FBL 3 again has... a few more miles of track than FBL 2. So you may just want to hang on and drool for the next verison...Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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FullBucketCharter Member · 93 posts

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> But I wouldn't worry downloading FBL 2 now. Bjoern did
> repeatedly post some previews of FBL 3 in the route builders
> forum recently, and judging from how these look, FBL 3 again
> has... a few more miles of track than FBL 2. So you may just
> want to hang on and drool for the next verison... I slightly disagree with you at this point, Lukas FBL3 is still in its infancy (or as we say in Germany: "Sie steckt noch in den Kinderschuhen"). I don't know when it's gonna be released, but it will take a while... at the moment, I have very little time to work on FBL3, and Teemu Vehkaoja aka tvrail is still struggling with the signals. But there is light at the end of the corridor (pray it's not an oncoming SD90MAC while you're on a single track ).So, Dash9_Man, go ahead and download FBL version 2! Cheers, Björn

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SwissieMember since Sep-27-02 · 140 posts

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Hi Björn,thanks for droping into the discussion and giving the "no panic-guestimate" on a release still being more than a day or two away. Better take your time - I appreciate your taking care of all details before a release. No lets just hope FBL3 grows up in less than 18 years, starting from now I actually shelved some ideas for making a few activities for FBL2 as I thought they might be obsolete ("zum Wände tapezieren") by the time I finished them. So - you think it's still worth getting started, except for the exercise? And speaking of activities: do the issues you hint to in the route builders forum (re: track issues/FBL 2.1 which you cancelled in favor of 3) have to do with troubles with the work orders? I wanted to do some activity in which you'd have to pick up mail cars from 4-5 sidings while doing a local passenger run from Mount Oliver to Ft. Fairfax (idea similar to the "round up the cabeese" activity somebody did for PO&N). Couldn't get the work order to accept more than the first mail car at Hope's End.Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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FullBucketCharter Member · 93 posts

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> I actually shelved some ideas for making a few activities
> for FBL2 as I thought they might be obsolete ("zum Wände
> tapezieren") by the time I finished them. So - you think
> it's still worth getting started, except for the exercise? Depends on the time you need to finish them... No, just kidding! I guess most of us would be pleased to see some new activities for FBL2!> And speaking of activities: do the issues you hint to in the
> route builders forum (re: track issues/FBL 2.1 which you
> cancelled in favor of 3) have to do with troubles with the
> work orders?No. Just a few replacements of switches and tracks (apart from adjustments for better switching operations at certain locations like Simonville), but these will definitely kill existing activity paths. Thus, I better give it a new version number so everyone will know that a FBL2 activity might not on FBL3.Cheers, Björn

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zachattackMember since Oct-11-02 · 350 posts

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Swissie, what's the closest starting point to that rocket area?
Zach, future Trinity Railway engineer(I'm only eleven)
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SwissieMember since Sep-27-02 · 140 posts

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Hi Zach, start from Lake Hurst, driving towards Mount Oliver (that is: West), use the right track of the mainline. Circa a mile and a half from Lake Hurst, the single track spur with the 30mph limit leaving to the right takes you to the rocket facility (which is about 3 slow miles from the main).Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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IcyFireCharter Member · 1468 posts

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TrainTrak5000Charter Member · 605 posts

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Raton Pass all the way. It's one of the few routes that doesn't act up from time to time on me, and you can run almost any type of equipment on it and it won't look out of place. Also, you get really good frame rates.
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JonNMember since Feb-14-03 · 16 posts

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Definately Full Bucket for me as well. I downloaded V2.0 of this route just before the Christmas, and I was imediately hooked. The FBL is good looking and has a good framerate, a rare combination in MSTS routes.

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heffedMember since Feb-5-03 · 152 posts

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Newark & Jersey City.
Port Ogden & Northern.
I just got Ohio Rail, but it's a keeper.
Seaview2. Never get tired of looking at that. -Jeff

Union Pacific is my drug.

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shoskinsCharter Member · 656 posts

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My faves:Wupper Express (love to run commuter trains on it)
Full Bucket Line (similarities to desert here in California)
LGV Mediterranean (yeah, I love to tear ass down the tracks...)

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pacmancreatorMember since Jul-23-02 · 359 posts

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The best:
SeaView 2,
Full Bucket 2
Albula Line,
MCT,
Port Ogden V.6,
Number One Tram Route,
Dogskill,
If we're also talking about default routes):
NEC,
Hisatsu

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-Matt, future Cirque Du Soleil singer
-Creating Pac-Man comics for the humorless people out there

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VinceCharter Member · 475 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-20-03 AT 02:57 AM (EDT)

Well, the NECv4 is being sent (by snail-mail) to the beta testers today.
Here is a map of the route:
Please note that this map has omitted about 80 industry sidings that I could not show due to the size of the map. This is only the "Big Picture."
I plan to break the map into maybe three sections for greater detail.

Regards,
Vince Cockeram
NEC Track Team
http://hometown.aol.com/nectrackteam/main.html
E-Mail me at vcockeram@lvcm.com

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wdq4587Member since Feb-7-03 · 74 posts

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For not delete:Ohio Rail 10
Dogskill County
Full Bucket 2
Pobla 2
Port Ogden & Northern 6For try to keep:A Dual Fantasy RR
East Metro RR
Wupper Express 6
LGV Med 2

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kevarcCharter Member · 3393 posts

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For me any route is subject to deletion. KHP has been the longest lived on my harddrive. Sandpatch is a close second. MP3.1 - deleted, ORRlatest build - never downloaded, Cajon - deleted but thinking of putting it back, PRR Middle Division (beta) - installed, deleted 2 days later, Raton & FBL - all versions deletedKevin Arceneaux
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henry3Charter Member · 1333 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-20-03 AT 01:57 PM (EDT)

www.avsim.comEdit: As far as the route that I will not delete, thus far I've gotten around that problem by buying increasingly larger hard drives. Henry

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jhender501Charter Member · 138 posts

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Thanks...I can't think of any I'd delete..I've only got 5 or 6
and haven't even begun to use them!Jim

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CosmoCharter Member · 9 posts

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Newark & New Jersey is definately my favourite, followed by
Full Bucket Line and Ohio Build 10. I love the industrial landscape of NNJ and still haven't explored half of it.

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