A treat for lovers of electric freight locos

Hi once morejust wanted to direct you to a new electric freight loco I just got from a different site - thought that some folks might love to know about it here too.
Just ran two (individually numbered) units of this powerful loco, model by J.Y.Canoville (released 26/01/2003) over my old USA2 which I "electrified". The prototype was used by Swiss BLS, a railroad based in the Bernese region (near Switzerlands capital) over Loetschberg pass. With there 8000 HP, they pull(ed) 900 metric ton consists up the 2.7% grade at 75 kph/50 mph. Two still survive as back-ups today, to my knowledge. They were converted in 1959 by permanently joining two four-axled passenger locos originally built in 1944:Btw: Some of these were left in their original state and still do local and express trains today, at the age of 59...Both downloads available at www.thetrain.deLukas a.k.a Swissie

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RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, OTTODAD, Feb-06-03, 07:13 AM, (1) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Mudpup, Feb-06-03, 07:23 AM, (2) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, shieldsy, Feb-06-03, 08:37 AM, (3) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, dvdhoven, Feb-06-03, 10:54 AM, (5) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Mudpup, Feb-06-03, 02:11 PM, (9) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, OTTODAD, Feb-06-03, 11:01 AM, (6) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Swissie, Feb-10-03, 06:05 AM, (19) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, OTTODAD, Feb-10-03, 08:42 AM, (20) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Swissie, Feb-10-03, 10:21 AM, (22) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, grandpaOz, Feb-06-03, 10:39 AM, (4) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, kpa594, Feb-12-03, 03:56 PM, (24) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Jonatan, Feb-06-03, 11:20 AM, (7) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, henry3, Feb-06-03, 12:36 PM, (8) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, shieldsy, Feb-06-03, 11:28 PM, (10) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Swissie, Feb-10-03, 05:55 AM, (18) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, OTTODAD, Feb-10-03, 09:07 AM, (21) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, brucek, Feb-07-03, 02:13 AM, (11) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, cjmaclean, Feb-07-03, 03:40 AM, (12) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, brucek, Feb-07-03, 05:05 AM, (13) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Swissie, Feb-12-03, 01:29 PM, (23) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, jonathanmlewis, Feb-07-03, 06:33 AM, (14) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, drmtf, Feb-07-03, 07:09 AM, (15) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, LocoRo, Feb-07-03, 01:25 PM, (16) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, Swissie, Feb-10-03, 05:52 AM, (17) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, kpa594, Feb-12-03, 05:48 PM, (25) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, stephenburr, Feb-12-03, 06:37 PM, (26) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, kpa594, Feb-13-03, 03:48 AM, (27) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, kpa594, Feb-15-03, 06:49 AM, (28) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, dvdhoven, Feb-15-03, 09:00 AM, (29) RE: a treat for lovers of electric freight locos, kpa594, Feb-15-03, 02:18 PM, (30)

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Lukas,great looking Locos, spoiled only by the old problem of their Pantographs not touching the Overhead wire ! I hope KUJU take care of that with the next MSTS.Still any "Crocodiles" in Service ?O t t o

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Though to be fair to Kuju, the height the wire is set at is down to the user and is modifiable on a per route basis.M.

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Looks like that fine loco could use some shine. I'll dl tonight.
BTW, I noticed an updated Shape File Manager in the file library.

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Hi,That is a typical non solution!
In reality, the wire height is not fixed. I varies from (very) low under viaducts, bridges, overpasses and in tunnels to normal height on free tracks.
What we need are pantographs that can follow the wire, up and down. And of course wire that vary in height. Now on some routes the wire is running through a viaduct.The second thing is that many loco builders use different panto heights. So setting the wire height in the route properties may solve the problem for one loco but causes it for an other one. BTW great loco's. I like them very much. I have see them in action when I was on holidays in Switzerland, one of my favourite holiday countries.Dick van den Hoven

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Yes, you're right, there is that I guess, and it would be quite nice to watch the wire sink slightly as you enter a tunnel and rise back to normal height as you exit.

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Cleared my message, saying exactly the same as Dick, I did not read until after ! O t t o

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Hi Otto,> Still any "Crocodiles" in Service ?"Crocodiles": Not with any of the main lines / standard gauge. But I just saw one hauling regular freight out of Chur on the narrow-gauge RhB last Thursday (#412, if I remember correctly). With the Ski World Championships currently on in St.Moritz, and many supplemental trains dispatched on weekends, the RhB sent out practically all of it's motive stock and cars to work the lines, including the "Salon Pullman" Coaches of the 1920's, Philippe Starck's Designer car, motorcar 501 of 1939, three coaches with open plattforms usually restricted to the occasional steam train, and obviously even a "Rhetian Crocodile". Last Staurday was crazy: I've never seen such an amount of their historic stock helping to work their revenue trains! Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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Lucky you, Lukas ! O t t oP.S. An Austrian won the Downhill or was it the Giant Slalom ?

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Yep, an Austrian won the downhill, as we have always been good neighbours... Well, our guys will come back, something around the next millenium Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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not a freight loco, but from the same site, the DB Lirex, snazzy design, and has one of the most interesting cabviews done yet.
regards
grandpaOz

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To grandpaOz,More info please, like file ref., etc.I have searched www.thetrain.de for DB Lirex and nothing found.Cheers, Ken

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-06-03 AT 11:20 AM (EDT)

*drools all over the keybord* Gaaah, must...have...Swiss...locomotive.Looks awsome! In the first pic, it looked very much like a Swedish Oe class ore hauling locomotive which was used hauling ore trains from Kiruna to Luleå. It looks great!/Jonatan

Steam rules!

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Thank you, Lukas! I don't get over to that site nearly as often as I should. There's a lot of great stuff over there including hundreds of electric locos!Take care,Henry

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-06-03 AT 11:29 PM (EDT)

Thanks Lukas for tipping us to this engine and the great site.
I highly recommend adding shine to this loco. Stunning.

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Hi shieldsy ...and thanks for the tip with the shine! The operator BLS is reknown for its policy of maintaining its stock in clean, mint condition, whenever possible - sometimes a little difficult in winters, on a mountain route. Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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Talk about the Swiss and their sense of Cleanliness ! I remember when working in Buchs back in 1955, they had people
sweeping up droppings from cows in the streets, the Mooos being taken up into the mountain pastures early mornings.I can still hear the loud sound of the Cow Bells waking me up every day !Below is another example. It's part of the now oil-fired pre-1900 Steam Engine of the Paddle Steamer accross Lake
Luzern (Vierwaldstättersee), this being the start of the Wilhelm Tell Express to Lugano in Italy. Bus accross to
Tirano for the journey back into Switzerland over the Bernina Pass.O t t o

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You want heavy-haulage electrics?
Then do what I did over six-months ago; go to Sweden! This site is an excellent source for electric power and after converting Marias Pass to full electrification ("Sweden 1") and editing much of the scenery in RE, the line now runs heavy ore trains hauled by LittDM electrics instead of mixed freights headed by Dash-nines.I can recommend a visit........
http://msts.e-buzz.net/Bruce.

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While we're at it, I can also recommend a visit to http://mikemad.de/msts.htm . Mike just released a very nice heavy twin-section electric freight engine known as "IORE" which is used on the Swedish iron ore lines in real life. Just to give you an idea of the sheer power of this one, it has almost 14,700 hp and 1,200 kN tractive effort .
Dominik Mann Visit www.tssf.de - www.bahn.de - http://mercurio.iet.unipi.it/ - www.eisenbahnforum.de

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Thank you very much for that information and link.
I knew that the Swedes used some pretty impressive machinery but that's certainly "wow!" material! Incidentally, I love the job that "Mad Mike" has done on the Milwaukee Bi-polar: very nice indeed.Bruce.

AustRail

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Thanks Bruce,unfortunately, the link to Sweden 1 is currently inops. Will have to wait...Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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WOW!!! The BLS Ae 8/8 is I think the best ever swiss loco. But only 1 is still left now 275 has been cut up.http://groups.msn.com/MSTSNarrowGauge

Jonathan Lewis
jonathanmlewis@msn.com
Building NG route from Ouray,Co to Pacerville, Co. Track laying complete. Now doing river, road and forest placing. Overall 60% complete.
Building NG route from Ouray,Co to Pacerville, Co. Track laying complete. Now doing river and forest placing.Also building Cripple Creek line and other RR's around Gold Hill route.

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Is anyone working on Great Northern and Milwaukee Road electrics? The Milwaukee bipoar is a great locomotive, but it needs some company.

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Hi Swissie,Have you seen this one already :what: RABDe 500 (ICN)
who: Simon (simon@hellekalek.com)
When: not yet More info:
http://mercurio.iet.unipi.it/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/electric/emu/RABe500/pix.htmlGerman forum:
http://www.tssf-forum.de
Greetings Roland
Netherlands

fan of Christrains©
www.christrains.com

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Hi LocoRono, haven't seen that download yet. But I get a chance to ride the prototype regularily, and love it every time. To the folks not familiar to this set: These consists, commonly also referred to as ICN, are made up of 7 cars and are normally coupled in pairs to make a 14-car InterCity train. They run hourly on one of the two main East/West corridors of the federal railways of Switzerland (the so-called Jura-base route from St.Gallen via Zurich - Neuchatel - Lausanne to Geneva). The prototype is equiped with a tilting mechanism that makes the train "lean into curves", thus allowing for higher speed even on lines with many turns. Simulating prototypical speed restrictions for this type of train, I guess it would run an electrified MP31 from Shelby to Whitefish in something like 90 minutes, still without loosing out on "passenger" comfort. Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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To grandpaOz,
More info please, like file ref., etc.I have searched www.thetrain.de for DB Lirex and nothing found.Cheers, Ken

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Ken, if you go to the site, do as follows:On left menu, click "english" for language.On left mmenu in next screen, click "electric engines" in the Download Categories.Next screen, center menu, click "Switzerland" under country.A page of engines will appear. Click for page "2".On page 2, scroll down until you find the locomotives "BLS Ae 8/8" and "BLS Ae 4/4". I believe those are the correct engines as shown in the post.Hope this helps.

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Stephen,
Thanks, already got that one. The one I'm looking for is the one in post#4 from grandpaOz. He referred to it as the DB Lirex.Ken

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Hi,When you do a search at www.thetrain.de and you search for Lirex with as option Description, you will find the Lirex.Here is the filename: DB618_Lirex.zipDick van den Hoven

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Thanks Dick, now downloading itKen

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