Quick! Hide those F15s: here comes the Mig29 Fulcrum

Ain't she the prettiest thing you ever did see? And she sure looks the business too---wowwwwwwww!Mike

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Beautiful.LOMAC right?The Russians have a knack for building some great looking aircraft.It's amazing how beautiful such a deadly weapon can be.Now,I wouldn't be hiding those F-15's though.

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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I've been having a lot of fun with this Su-17C lately in Strike Fighters:

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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FS2004 here I come--Wow!

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And a couple of Mig-21's:

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Do you know which is the better aircraft?

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F-15C.But as far as I'm concerned,the pilot,tactics, and rules of engagement will close the gap.In recent "wargames" with the Indian Air Force, the F-15c's weren't allowed to use what makes them the best.And they flew at 4-1 odds.The Indians have produced some great pilots and fly capable aircraft.They put on a good show.But take the gloves off and....

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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>F-15C.But as far as I'm concerned,the pilot,tactics, and
>rules of engagement will close the gap.But to add to that, a far more appropriate Russian aircraft to compare the F-15 to would be the Su-27 "Flanker"Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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The Su-27,another beautiful aircraft.

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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A couple more Russian beauties from Strike Fighters:Yak-28P,Su-15TM,Mig-23M

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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And in regard to my previous post: Here's the mighty Flanker in all it's glory. I like the look of the original Su-27 the best of all the members of the Flanker family: The canard fins on the Su-33 and '35 detract from it's graceful lines, and the dual-seat cockpit on the Su-30 looks really funky, as does the widened nose and side-by-side cockpit of the Su-34...BTW, I love Russian camoflauge schemes... Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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Nice shots,sweet bird.

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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Nice! Are they available for MSFS2002/4? And if so where do I get em from?Mike

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>Nice! Are they available for MSFS2002/4? And if so where do
>I get em from? Thats the default Su-27 for LOMAC, but since I don't have MFS2002 or MFS2004, I don't know if any have been made for those sims...Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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Hey SinclairYou take your MIG-29I'll take the F-15When would you like to hook up onlineWe'll hook up online and see who is victorious !( Prepare to shell out for the cost of a new Fulcrum !! )If ya wanna bring a wingman thats cool .. I've got a guy I've been "flying" with for close to 350+ hours now ( Falcon 4 / Janes F-18 & LOMAC ) As you can tell I get a little cocky when people say the F15 is gonna loose somthinLaterTim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg CanadaProud member of the - NO TRAIL CN SD60 - club !!

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>F-15C.But as far as I'm concerned,the pilot,tactics, and
>rules of engagement will close the gap.I agree with this comment 100%My buddy who I "wing" for in the 96th always shows people this theory.He climbs into a big and bulky tommy, while the rookies get to fly in the "weapon of choice" ( Usually the F16 )Anyways .... In long range & in dogfight mode the Rookies always get their clocks cleaned.If you put an below average pilot in a F-16 / and an outstanding pilot in a MIG-25 and go head to head .... chances are the experienced pilot is gonna prevail.LaterTim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg CanadaProud member of the - NO TRAIL CN SD60 - club !!

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One last noteGreat Screen shots guys.If any of ya wanna go "flying" tonight let me know. We have 2 spots still available for tonights online sortie. ( a couple of our Canadian Wing are takin off for the long weekend )Having a pair of guys for SEAD would be handy !!Let me know and I'll set ya up with an Server IP and Teamspeak IPPS: Guess I should mention ..... Falcon 4.0Tim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg CanadaProud member of the - NO TRAIL CN SD60 - club !!

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Okay, okay Tim, your F15 wins, but what about This monster:Mike

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>Okay, okay Tim, your F15 wins, but what about This monster:
>
>Mike I remember that movie. Was a good movie !!Hmmm I wonder if I can find that on DVD hereNow ... With Firefox's size and definite lack of stealth capability, I'm sure an AIM-120 will kock that right outta the sky pretty darn quick.Judging by the heat signature comin' out of those nozzles it would probably be fairly easy work for a 9 as well.Later
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>Now ... With Firefox's size and definite lack of stealth
>capability, I'm sure an AIM-120 will kock that right outta
>the sky pretty darn quick. I doubt that: The Firefox can hit Mach 6, and during the period between Operation Desert Fox and Operation iraqi Freedom, Iraqi MiG-25s evaded numerious AMRAAMs shot at them, due to the fact that they usually ran away from US fighters at maximum speed (mach 2.8), an AMRAAM will not be able to hit a MiG-25 at that speed from behind at launch ranges greater than 10km. The first kill with an AMRAAM was ironically a MiG-25, but it should be noted that that particular MiG was stupid enough to turn and fight rather than run away.
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Tim,first I would have to get Falcon 4.0.(I really should).Secondly,I think you guys would rip me apart.I fly single player.Back in the CFS2 days I flew a little MP,and was average.I love Strike Fighters and CFS3 for the addon planes and moddability.But lately I've been on a big flying kick,so maybe I'll check it out.Here's a few USN and USMC AC from Strike Fighters:F-8B Crusader,A-5B Vigilante,and a couple of A-4's.The F-8 is one excellent gunfighter

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Back to the F-15C.I've seen her top speed listed as Mach 2.5,2.6, and even 2.8.I've also been told by folks in the AF that her top speed is classified.Any more info on this Jonathan?Sort of like the SR-71's top speed listed as Mach 3.5.I saw footage on Discovery a while back which showed the air-speed ind. spinning up towards Mach 3.5.The video cut out exactly at 3.5,with no signs of the acceleration rate diminishing.I wonder what her top speed really is?

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Catch me if you can...

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Awww Man that is sweeet I havn't bought/played any jet fighter games in ages, last one i bought was I think F22 lightning, wow it looked nothing like that. Are all of those screenies from the same game if so which one is it. Can any of you guys recomend any games to look out for, Im a die-hard realism person so im not into star wars games or nothing. and also im looking for something with combat. Any games with the A-10 should be just great.

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>and also im looking for something with combat. Any
>games with the A-10 should be just great. If your PC can handle itLOMAC !!!Later
Edited to add thishttp://www.lo-mac.com/Tim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg CanadaProud member of the - NO TRAIL CN SD60 - club !!

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Compared to MSTS how would you compare it? You know like does it bring the average PC down to a halt like our wonderful TS.

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>Compared to MSTS how would you compare it? You know like
>does it bring the average PC down to a halt like our
>wonderful TS. Well, here are the absolute minimum system requirements for both games...MSTS
Processor 266MHz (350 or better reccomended)
Disk Space 500MB (1,500MB for full install)
RAM: 64MB
Video RAM: 8MB or better (32MB reccomended)LOMAC
Processor: 800MHz
Disk Space: 1,100MB
RAM: 256MB (512MB reccomended)
Video RAM: 32MB (128MB reccomended)I can run LOMAC pretty well in single player on my older machine (with reduced settings), but I think it's too slow for LOMAC's multiplayer, as it does not run reliably at all in MP...
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>Well, here are the absolute minimum system requirements for
>both games...
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>MSTS
>Processor 266MHz (350 or better reccomended)
>Disk Space 500MB (1,500MB for full install)
>RAM: 64MB
>Video RAM: 8MB or better (32MB reccomended)
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>LOMAC
>Processor: 800MHz
>Disk Space: 1,100MB
>RAM: 256MB (512MB reccomended)
>Video RAM: 32MB (128MB reccomended) Thanks that helped alot, I guess I bettta stick with running on the rails now

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That Blackbird is beautiful!All of the planes I posted are from Strike Fighters.A new version is about to be released called Strike Fighters Gold.Here's what's in my Aircraft folder:A-1H,A-4B,A-4C,A-4E,A-4E(late),A-4L,A-5B,A-7B,A-7D,A-7E,A-10A,AMX-1 A1,AV-8C,SeaHarrier FRS1,F9F-5,F-84F,F-86F,F-86F-40,FJ-3M,F-89C,F-100D,F-104G,F-105D,F-4B,F-4C,F-4D,F-4E,F-4F,F-4J,F-4N,F-8D,O-1E,U-2A,B-29,B-52G,B-57B,B-66B,C-130A,P-47N,P-51D,Canadair Sabre Mk.6,CAC Avon Sabre Mk.32,Hawker Hunter F.6,Vampire FB Mk.5,Mirage IIIC,Mirage IIICJ,Mirage F-1C,J-35F Draken,Mig-15,Mig-15bis,Mig-17F,Mig-17PFU,Mig-19S,Mig-21F,Mig-21MF,Mig-21PFM,Mig-21 Lancer,Mig-23M,Mig-23MS,Su-7BM,Su-9A,Su-9B,Su-11,Su-15A,Su-15F,Su-17,Yak-25B,Yak-25RV,Yak-28P,Tu-4,Tu-16A,Tu-22,Il-28,An-12 and a Shenyang F-6.There's also tons of skins for all these birds.And there's A-6's,A-37's,F-101's,F-102's,F-106's,Mystere IV's,BAC Fmk6 Lightnings and others on the way.

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>Thanks that helped alot, I guess I bettta stick with running
>on the rails now
On the link I provided above there is a demo you can download.The settings are VERY configureable.Doesn't hurt to try !!LaterTim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg CanadaProud member of the - NO TRAIL CN SD60 - club !!

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Bah!! Forget all your Mig29's and F-15C's. GO THE F-14's!!! Those are some real aircraft!! Someone once told me that the F-14 is just a cheap copy of the Russian Mig29. Boy...he didnt know what hit him once he said that! LOL!>Mike Forster<
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>Bah!! Forget all your Mig29's and F-15C's. GO THE F-14's!!!
> Those are some real aircraft!!
>
>Someone once told me that the F-14 is just a cheap copy of
>the Russian Mig29. Boy...he didnt know what hit him once he
>said that! LOL! Yes, the F-14 is kewl. Too bad it's recently been deprived of the weapon that made it unique, since the AIM-54 Pheonix was retired less than 2 weeks ago (due to cracks found in the propellant of many of the missiles), and the F-14 itself will be retired by 2010, to be replaced by the F-18E/F Sewer Horror- err I mean Super Hornet...
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And check out this new F-105D-31:

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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Jonathan,has the Phoenix ever been fired in anger?Did a short search,couldn't find anything specific.It seems to me that weapons like the Phoenix,or the AMRAAM,suffer from highly restrictive rules of engagement.

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>Jonathan,has the Phoenix ever been fired in anger?Did a
>short search,couldn't find anything specific.The US Navy only used the Pheonix once in anger: It was a near-maximum range shot against an Iraqi MiG-25 in 1999. The MiG fled and the missile missed.Early in the Iran-Iraq war, Iran's F-14s fired most of the 275 AIM-54s they had bought along with the Tomcats, and the F-14s and their Pheonixs proved highly effective against the Iraqi Air Force. Of course, the Iranians had nowhere to get any new Pheonix missiles (or new Sparrows and Sidewinders, for that matter) or spare parts, so their Tomcat force was all but impotent by the time the war ended...Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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Wee-eee-eeell - if you look at the F-15 vs MiG-29 combat statistics, the numbers do not exactly come out in favour of the MiG....

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