What's so odd about this picture?

LAST EDITED ON Aug-08-04 AT 11:59 PM (EST)

Here is a pic of al-Sadr's militia in Iraq. Something I spotted in this picture really, really surprised me. Try and guess what it is...Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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Other than the guns casting no shadow on the picture? It looks like it's faked...

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>Other than the guns casting no shadow on the picture? It
>looks like it's faked... Oh, there is a faint shodow on the picture if you look closely enough, but that's not what I was getting at...Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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It looks like their pointing their guns at the guy's head in the picture. LOL!

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I dunno, but it looks like there is one of them fancy laser-sight thingies aimed at his head around his starboard temple."The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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American made guns used by people who hates us?

Sean Summer AKA Poltergeist
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LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-04 AT 05:30 AM (EST)

It looks like the mug on the left is carrying a WW2 vintage German MP44(or Stg43)!And if it is where the heck did he get it?

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>It looks like the mug on the left is carrying a WW2 vintage
>German MP44(or Stg43)!And if it is where the heck did he get
>it? Thats totally what that is.Maybe he's German !!Later

Tim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg Canada

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Power lines.

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Nah,It's got to be the MP44.I wonder if that clown knows what he's got.In seemingly excellent shape.That was a rare weapon even in the Wehrmacht.Then again,a few buddies of mine with similar WW2 interest were watching news footage of the first Gulf War and the segment was on the Highway of Death.There was a tank KO'd by a bomb that was upside down.We all jumped out of our chairs at the same time and yelled"Holy S**T,that's a KO'd Panther.It was tough to tell from the inverted and partially buried hull,but the tracks,and especially the overlapping wheel pattern gave it away.Maybe that's not that unusual as the French continued to build Panthers and spare parts into the fifties.And the Serbs used T34's and T54 hulls with M18 Hellcat turrets right up to the Nato intervention.

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Here's the question though,Did anyone manufacture the MP44 after the war?It was a great weapon.

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Also do you have a link from that site?

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-04 AT 10:59 PM (EST)

>Here's the question though,Did anyone manufacture the MP44
>after the war?It was a great weapon. No: production and development of the StG-44* ceased after WWII, after only 430,000 were produced. It had several faults (It was a little too heavy, the magazine stuck out too much, making it difficult to fire from prone, and the buttstock broke too easily). Still, it was much more effective in combat that either the Kar 98K rifle, or the MP40 submachinegun (the two weapons it was intended to replace). It faults can be forgiven by the fact that it was the very first assault rifle ever produced, and thus it's designers were treading uncharted waters. The original AK (popularly called the AK47) outdid the StG-44 in almost every way: Although it's been incorrectly stated that the AK is a copy of the StG-44, Mikhail Kalashnikov still learned some valuable lessons from the StG's strengths and flaws when designing the AK.*The weapon was indeed originally called MP-44 (MP=Machininpistole=Sub-Machinegun), but by Hitler's order, the MP-44's designation was changed to StG-44 (StG=Sturmgehwer=Assault Rifle) for propaganda purposes before it was accepted for service. Despite the original reasons for the StG designation, it spawned an entirely new class of weapon bearing that name...Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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The guy holding a stick instead of a gun?

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I believe that the stick is attached to the sign, Zach .
-Sam

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>I believe that the stick is attached to the sign, Zach . Oops! Well so it is! I thought that was a billboard!

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-04 AT 07:03 PM (EST)

The hand on the right looks like it was added later. The shadows on it are different than the rest of the picture.

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Tell us what it is already!!!!

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I think I know its either the power lines or is that a woman holding the sign up?-MattATSF GP60M #104 works on the local in Flagstaff, AZ.

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Thats a man holding up the sign. And whats so unsual about power lines? I mean the people gotta get power somehow.

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-04 AT 10:56 PM (EST)

>I think I know its either the power lines or is that a woman
>holding the sign up? Err, you're still trying to figure it out? In case you didn't bother to read the thread throughly, someone else already figured it out, and the unusual thing about the picture is the gun on the left, which is basically an extremly rare WWII-vintage German weapon (unlike the AK on the right, which is as common as dirt)
Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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and its in the hand of terrorist, perfect.... **rolls eyes**

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The irony is, he could do more good for himself and his loved ones by selling that to a collector or museum and making a decent sum of cash off of it. That's thing's an antique!I say just give up - hell, we're the USA. When we're done making war we give out lots of free stuff. I say it's a good deal. less violence, and fewer headaches all around."The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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That StG44 looks very clean though.I wonder if it was looted from one of Baghdad's museums?

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-10-04 AT 04:14 PM (EST)

>That StG44 looks very clean though.I wonder if it was looted
>from one of Baghdad's museums? Or maybe it came from the personal gun collection of Saddam or one of his minions. Saddam had a taste for very expensive guns: after all, one of his palaces was adorned with gold-plated AKs and SVDs...
Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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Every time I see that poster I wonder where Larry and Moe have gotten off to . . .
Brad Meyer

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Oh, a wise guy eh? nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.......Tim

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*slap*
*poke*
*boink!*

Sean Summer AKA Poltergeist
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Looks can be decieving. That's not an MP44 there. Specifically, it is a KA-74 Type 5. (or if you rather, in the english naming system, the AK-74).Though, it could just as easily be the KA-74M, a modification of the AK-74, which it's intended use is for motorized infantry. The AK-74m was manufactured and designed in Russia by Izhmash Small Arms. The AK-74m also exists in another variant the AKS-74m which has a side folding stock and was designed for Air-born troops.

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That's not an AK of any variant on the left.It's an StG44.

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-15-04 AT 12:45 PM (EST)

>Looks can be decieving. That's not an MP44 there.
>
>Specifically, it is a KA-74 Type 5. (or if you rather, in
>the english naming system, the AK-74).
>
>Though, it could just as easily be the KA-74M, a
>modification of the AK-74, which it's intended use is for
>motorized infantry. The AK-74m was manufactured and
>designed in Russia by Izhmash Small Arms. The AK-74m also
>exists in another variant the AKS-74m which has a side
>folding stock and was designed for Air-born troops. The weapon on the left is most certainly an StG-44: compare it with the below photo.
The weapon on the right is an AKM or an AKMS (can't tell which, because I can't see the stock): I can tell by the magazine and shape of the foregrip. The magazine of all AK-74 type weapons are made of either orange or black plastic. Both the magazines in that picture are obviously made of stamped sheetmetal.Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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I thought Sadam Prefered Silver on his Catchya's

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-16-04 AT 00:21 AM (EST)

>Specifically, it is a KA-74 Type 5. (or if you rather, in the
>english naming system, the AK-74).AK is KA in Russian? I think it's the other way around, considering:AK = Автомат Калашникова = Avtomat Kalashnikova = Kalashnikov Automatic RifleIn any case: It's always referred to as "AK", even in english...Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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Modified 74's, made for paratroopers and Mechanized units are black with black metal clips.

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>Modified 74's, made for paratroopers and Mechanized units
>are black with black metal clips. The AKS-74s have black magazines alright, but they are plastic, not metal. In any case, all the plastic magazines manufactured for the AK-74s these days are black...Not that that is relevant. The gun on the left is indeed an StG-44, not an AK.Jonathan Nikiforovs.
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