Route Bremen Hauptbahnhof Bremen Vegesack released

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it is the first part oif my route between Bremen Central station and Bremen Burg with a length of 11,9 km and 5 Stations.It is an non fictional route. Start in Bremen Ausfahrgruppeover Bremen Central stationto Bremen BurgI Hope, you enjoy this high detailed route.
Please read the information about the system requierd for this route.Download on my site unter projekte Download HBFhttp://BVE-Train.degreatings
Martin Finken
http://BVE-Train.de

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Excellent Martin! Another of the bits of Die Bahn I've travelled on, so look forward to the memories coming back to me as I drive it in BVE...

Currently recreating the Heathrow Express for BVE.

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Well done, Martin!Guys, I've been honored by Martin to betatest this route some times ago and I can ensure you that no datail has ben forgotten or undervalued in this superb shenery!Luigi Cartello
http://bve.altervista.org/
http://web.tiscali.it/lcartello/

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where can we find the BDnrzf740 Nahverkehrszug train for this route?
And if the trrain isn't available on the net what is an appropriate one?

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On http://bve-train.de/ press the "Downloads Zuge" button, then "Sonstige Fahrzeuge": it's the first in the page.Luigi Cartello
http://bve.altervista.org/
http://web.tiscali.it/lcartello/

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Great screen shots there, shame I dont have BVE installed on my computer at the moment. I might jus go and download it now to give this route a spin.Download add ons for BVE from http://mysite.freeserve.com/midland_bve

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Thank you >On http://bve-train.de/ press the "Downloads Zuge" button,
>then "Sonstige Fahrzeuge": it's the first in the page.
>
>Luigi Cartello
>http://bve.altervista.org/
>http://web.tiscali.it/lcartello/

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Dear MartinAll I can say is that the route is TOP CLASS as expected It gives my rather old pc a hard time though... If you could provide different levels of scenery, like Bham X-city,I believe that more BVE users would enjoy it better.Anyway, congratulations and keep up the good work Smile2evan

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Fantastic Martin! All these routes and things coming out, it's like Christmas two months early!! Nicely done. Looking forward to the rest! Tim Frost
NVTA Subway routes for BVE:

The Union Atlantic Railroad: Your stuff's important!

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sehr schon
sehr gut!

How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your meat?

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All this needs is a one word answer, SUPER!

Damon Cox
http://www.bvedepot.co.uk
http://www.the-siding.co.uk

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This is fantastic, didn't know this was possible. Thank you very very very much.Unfortunatly I have to buy a new computer because my AMD duron 800, 512 sdram don't like this kind of heavy stuff. Does anybody have any suggestions how to speed up things?I really can't wait to drive this route on a faster computer.Greetings,Jaap Stegers

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Ein traum strecke, veilen danke. All I need now is a litre of draught Becks. Brilliant work Martin. Only one bad point, couldn't download the objects on my home dial up modem, and took four attempts on the broadband at work. Was either corupt or incomplete on all but the last attempt at work.Tschus

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-21-03 AT 05:27 PM (EDT)

If you have problems with the download, please use a downloadmanager, and the download is working without problems.greatings
Martin Finken
http://BVE-Train.de

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As usual from you Martin, nicely done. This route is super,
a truly masterpiece, makes all of us feeling like 'being there'.
Very nice work indeed, my congratulations!
My computer was made in the Mesozoic era, so I'm only capable to run
this route with a little bit of smoothness using my drawing distance set down to 200m (!!) and 800x600.
Greetings from Brazil,

John Goncalves, Brazil
http://joaocg.topcities.com

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>If you have problems with the download, please use a
>downloadmanager, and the download is working without
>problems. No problems for me as well! Downloaded with speed, 47KB/sec!

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Can anyone tell me how to install this route into BVE. When I unzip the files I have 3 folders, HBFSSound, HBFtoBurgRoute and HBHbftoVegesackObject. Where do these folders go in BVE? Do I need to download trains off the site for this route or can I use the loco's that are in my "Train" folder?
Thanks.

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Here are the destinations of each folder:HBFSound - c:\program_files\BVE\Railway\SoundHBFtoBurgRoute - c:\program_files\BVE\RailWay\routeHBHBftoVegesack - c:\program_files\BVE\Railway\ObjectYou can use any train you like, by simply editing the route file
HbHbftoBurg.csv (onto the Route folder), changing the train name at 'train.folder' section. Use WordPad to do this.Another procedure: You can rename (via Windows Explorer, press F2) any train folder you already have, for the name of the train required, whici is inside the route file, in the section 'train.folder'. Use WordPad to open it.
Remember, this route demands a highly-spec computer to run smoothly.
Hope this helps,
Greetings from Brazil
(currently making my Guaianazes to Mogi route)

John Goncalves, Brazil
http://joaocg.topcities.com

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Thanks for the help. I had everything in the right place but I did not edit the "Route" folder so that the route could find a train to use. Seems to work okay with the beta BVE 2.9 also. My frame rates seem to be alright with my over-clocked Pentium 4 machine (3GHz running at 3.6GHz). I can't wait for BVE 3.0

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A very nice route - Thanks & congratulation for this beautiful route. Maybe too much objects, lol.
My Gefore 4 starting laggin with this routes (there 300m limit @ 1024x16pxl ~ 9 fps), thats show the graphic cards doesnt stop the creators powers .See You Later
Julian Legrand

- BVE france: http://bve.mm2france.net
(Under Construction)
- 1st Swiss route: 35% finished
- RSC NetWork: http://www.mm2france.net

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Great screenshots! But this is not route for me, because my PC with 294 MB RAM, 433 MHz and nVidia graphic card cannot run it at all, I see only a message about low memory and the PC restarts itself. I tried it twice, but with the same result. Maybe are begining the times where I couldn't run such perfect routes Can someone tell me how many stations this route has and on how many stations I must stop and what time this route takes? I have route table on my site and I would like to add informations about this route.And last question - do authors think about low-detail version just like in Birmingham route, for example?

Vince Black
website: http://www.vince-black.me.cz
e-mail: webmaster@vince-black.me.cz

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>
>Can someone tell me how many stations this route has and on
>how many stations I must stop and what time this route
>takes? I have route table on my site and I would like to add
>informations about this route.
>Five stations, including the departure station - stops at all of them and is timetabled for 15 minutes, 30 seconds.

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Great route!! Although the first kilometers this routes askes a lot of my computer! Thanx for the route Martin!Bye,Bas.

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After being enjoyed this route a lot, I'd like to repeat,
this is a super, superb route.
But I think, despite of someone demanding a lighter version for
low-spec machines, just another point to discuss:
-Looking inside the subfolders, I noticed the majority of bitmaps
are 16M colors, some of them have 769 Kb (!!!). Let's imagine
that not all people have a large bandwidth to download a 10.8 Mb
.zip file. A simple convertion to 256 colors might reduce the
archive at least to a half size, the quality will remain the same,
so this way more people could download the route easily.
To illustrate my case, as I don't have a large bandwidth connection,
my download had a total duration of 55 min, using my 56K modem.
Bye for now,

John Goncalves, Brazil
http://joaocg.topcities.com

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At least you were able to download the entire file My dialup can stay connected for 16-24 hours without my getting disconnected if need be, but I have not succeeded in getting more than 3.5 or so megabytes of the 10MB file before my connection with the server breaks down.But yeah...24-bit bitmaps on a route with this many objects are more than a bit of overkill. Methinks this calls for a bit of optimization, no?---PCJ

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I have not succeeded in getting more than 3.5 or so megabytes of the 10MB file before my connection with the server breaks down. Best get a download manager, Railride. The one I use is STAR DOWNLOADER Which is freeware with NO nasty spyware or trial periodsGet it at ... http://www.stardownloader.com/You should be OK thenJohn

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Hi This Star Downloader is really a life saver! I installed it after John's suggestion some time ago and it made my downloads trouble free.
Go for it guys.Thanks again John Smile2evan

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I'll give the downloader a try.But there's still the issue of those 24-bit bitmaps. My BVE machine is a 900MHz laptop with a GeForce 2Go! and 320MB of RAM, and even still I'm not terribly enthusiastic that it will be exceptionally playable, going by the testimony of others with similar equipment.What color depth did demanding routes like Birmingham X-City use for it's textures?---PCJ

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>What color depth did demanding routes like Birmingham X-City
>use for it's textures? Took a quick look and it is a 8-bit.

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I've been trying to run this route both in 2.53 and the new beta
, I've gone through the whole Object folder for the route reducing the bmp's to 8 bit .. but my pc just crashes and reboots once I start to pull out of the first station. I get no error reports on loading incidentally, although it takes some 2 minutes
My specs .. Athlon 2600+ @2.1Gig, Epox 8rda+ nforce2 mobo, 512 memory, radeon 9700 pro,8xAGP ,fast writes on.
Even with the resolution in BVE down to 800x600 and viewing distance set to 200 meters it does this ... a shame cos the bit's i did see looked nice . jv

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One thing to watch out for in reducing the .bmp files to 8 bit is the .bmp files that use the transparancy colour. I tried a few and the blue shows on the route after I reduced the .bmp size. I wonder if there is a way around this. Many of the .bmp without transparancy can be reduced and it does save disk space, not to mention route loading time.

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What happens especially in Irfan View is, say you have RGB 0.0.0 as your transparency colour, you reduce the bitmap to 8 bit and the 0.0.0 somehow turns into 2.4.6 or something. You can go into Pallate > Edit Pallete and alter it back to 0.0.0 there. If anyone knows a prevention then that'd be great, prevention is better than the cure.--
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>What happens especially in Irfan View is, say you have RGB
>0.0.0 as your transparency colour, you reduce the bitmap to
>8 bit and the 0.0.0 somehow turns into 2.4.6 or something.
>You can go into Pallate > Edit Pallete and alter it back to
>0.0.0 there. If anyone knows a prevention then that'd be
>great, prevention is better than the cure. But if you used Paint, it most likely will stay in 0,0,0 since saving as 256 colours in Paint won't give strange numbers.

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I use Irfanview all the time for graphics.It does a great job converting to 256 colors;much better than paint with its limited palette.I find that its best to use 24bit until you've done all your sizing,sharpening,etc. of the image.If you,re in 8bit and use certain operations of Irfanview such as sharpening the image it converts back to 24bit for that operation and when you convert back to 8bit later colors are messed up.Also,different paint programs (I use i.mage)may have RGB values very slightly off when moved to Iview and converted to 8bit,so I always check the transparency color in the palette.For instance 0,0,255 in i.mage ends up as 4,2,252 in Iview.Also,with Irfanview's batch conversion it took just a few minutes to convert all the Bremen route bitmaps to 8bit for my own use.

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