Calm down! Please read this end to end

Everyone is all up-in-arms the past week or so over the return of Anas Hassan and James Underwood.As illustrated in the Zazzy_Bob goodbye thread, Anas is obviously doing the opposite of what he was before. There are not seven new threads a day by his name and no slew of polls. I can't say I am a fan of his but if he honestly wants to act differently, I really fail to see a problem with it.You all need to stop making a big deal out of things, especially Nathan Whitington and Tom Beevers. You're making a normal situation into a bad situation.As for James Underwood, as much as I have mixed feelings about his return, he has screenshots to prove that he is actually working on a route and is not producing hotairware. Until it is actually released we cannot pass judgement on wether he has asked for permission for any of the content included. Permission is not required until the route is released so just let him be. Maybe he has turned over a new leaf.Just let well enough alone. We have discovered already that Wulf is quite fast-acting on problems in here. If there isn't a problem, DON'T START ONE!!This public service annoucement was brought to you by the Nearbug Valley Transportation Authority. Tim Frost
NVTA Subway routes for BVE:
http://nvta.co.uk

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-03 AT 12:23 PM (EDT)

Please, don't associate me with James any more guys, because I'm more of an independent guy now. I'm not a liar, I'd rather stick with the majority rather than the minority. Guys, I don't want to fight anymore. It's just not the answer. If you don't like me, I don't care, just keep it to yourself. I'm only here to hear the latest on BVE. I can't make routes, because I don't know how to do it and eventually one day I'll learn how to make routes. I'm only here to see how you are doing and what's new. I'm not the "James Underwood" style (anymore), I'm independent and I always will be (just like Grampian TV leaving Carlton/Granada and joining SMG). Please, I just want to be treated as an individual.Since I returned, I'm already amazed at how BVE has developed (eg. bus routes). And that's what I'm here for. To show enthusiasm for a wonderful train simulator which is even free of charge! That's another amazing thing.But now, I should be quiet like I have managed to successfully do since my return. Thank you guys Anas Hassan -

As far as I am concerned
The answer to big success and respect is
INDEPENDENCE

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Welcome back Anas.We all have behaviors we're not so proud of and I respect someone who expresses a wish to change and asks for that chance.

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>Since I returned, I'm already amazed at how BVE has
>developed (eg. bus routes). And that's what I'm here for. To
>show enthusiasm for a wonderful train simulator which is
>even free of charge! That's another amazing thing.
>
>But now, I should be quiet like I have managed to
>successfully do since my return. Thank you guys Anas HAS improved his behavior, his return didn't go unnoticed
by the membership or the moderators here. So far, I can't see
any reason not to let him continue to be a productive member of
the forums. Anas knows the score now. If things should change,
we'll deal with it then.Christopher Tarana
Ferroequinologist

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I agree with Tim here. Anas isnt being a trouble maker. Lets all give him a chance. We all have our share of mess ups. He had his and hes correcting it. So lets all give anas another chance.
Adam

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Thank you all for giving me a chance. Now this is my chance to show that I am a worthy BVE fan and I do not need anybody who thinks that they can pull me into bother. I can do fine myself and with you lot too Once again, I thank you all for giving me this good chanceAnas Hassan -

As far as I am concerned
The answer to big success and respect is
INDEPENDENCE

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>You all need to stop making a big deal out of things,
>especially Nathan Whitington and Tom Beevers. You're making
>a normal situation into a bad situation. I appologise for the last remark although there is no excuse. I am a firm believe in the bible and a second chance doesn't hurt anyone. So I appologise for that. I am also over the moon that you did spell my name right although I can't really give you any points because its my username lol.--
Nathan Whitington

http://members.aol.com/nwhitington

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-03 AT 04:09 PM (EDT)

Like I said, here are some of those less-than-open arms making their voices heard, it's a natural reaction but I agree with Tim on this, don't start a fire with your torch while looking for sparks CiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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Yes, please refrain from making comments, and don't start trouble where there isn't any. I would like to remind you all that the last time we had trouble it was when we had no mods!!! I fully trust the mods of this forum and I am sure that if they found any hint of trouble they WILL take action.The mods of this forum are active members and whilst may not be seen to be posting regularly I am sure they read every topic. Please trust your moads, they will act on the first sign of trouble.As for responsible BVE development, please if you notice anything untoward or feel some thing is wrong contact the route author FIRST! Give them a chance to explain, as we all do make mistakes or overlook certain things (like credits!). Give them a chance to put things right and if the opportubity is not taken then start raising this with the BVE community.I agree with Tim here, and as Wulf said don't start a fire with your torch while looking for sparks! (well said Wulf! )

Joshim,
currently constructing the DLR Route for BVE & Oxford Street BUS ROUTE! Check out my website http://joshimsbveroutes.gamehorizons.net/

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In my experience giving people second chances just means they gain everyones trust and then mess the forums up.--
Tom Beevers
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But we have mods now, so if someone messes out they are outta here! We all will notice if someone abuses our trust, and will again revert to intolerance of such behaviour until then, just keep an eye out for slip ups (if any)...

Joshim,
currently constructing the DLR Route for BVE & Oxford Street BUS ROUTE! Check out my website http://joshimsbveroutes.gamehorizons.net/

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That's your experience, it doesn't mean it will be true all the time!

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