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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

The complex bus object is done. I need a couple of people to look at it. There is also a library of colored simple and complex buses. Please send either a PM to me with your email address or an email to me Email title.must contain the words BVE Bus. Tell me if you just want the single bus or the full set. I am interested on how they impact frame rates. If these work out, I will upload here later this week.
Tried to upload a picture, but the server is not allowing this right now. These objects have moderatly detailed interiors. For use in an Urban setting where you would be close to the object.

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RE: Testers needed, Stooopid_person, Jun-23-03, 01:20 AM, (1) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jun-23-03, 05:18 AM, (2) RE: Testers needed, smace, Jun-23-03, 07:27 AM, (3) RE: Testers needed, Stooopid_person, Jun-23-03, 07:29 AM, (4) RE: Testers needed, smace, Jun-23-03, 11:53 AM, (5) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jun-23-03, 12:12 PM, (6) RE: Testers needed, Stooopid_person, Jun-24-03, 06:04 AM, (8) RE: Testers needed, smace, Jun-23-03, 08:42 PM, (7) RE: Testers needed, smace, Jul-07-03, 09:37 PM, (9) RE: Testers needed, Sonny9Anderson, Jul-11-03, 12:24 PM, (10) RE: Testers needed, tube_dude, Jul-11-03, 12:59 PM, (11) RE: Testers needed, anas_newcastle, Jul-11-03, 02:15 PM, (12) RE: Testers needed, tube_dude, Jul-11-03, 02:35 PM, (13) RE: Testers needed, mailer_diablo, Jul-11-03, 02:40 PM, (14) RE: Testers needed, anas_newcastle, Jul-11-03, 02:44 PM, (15) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jul-11-03, 02:48 PM, (16) RE: Testers needed, anas_newcastle, Jul-11-03, 02:56 PM, (17) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jul-11-03, 03:02 PM, (18) RE: Testers needed, smace, Jul-14-03, 12:03 PM, (22) RE: Testers needed, we1330, Jul-11-03, 03:57 PM, (19) RE: Testers needed, Downunder Tom, Jul-14-03, 01:06 AM, (20) RE: Testers needed, NathanWhitington, Jul-14-03, 05:53 AM, (21) RE: Testers needed, leezer3, Jul-14-03, 02:07 PM, (23) RE: Testers needed, Owls91, Jul-14-03, 05:07 PM, (24) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jul-15-03, 10:37 AM, (25) RE: Testers needed, smace, Jul-15-03, 01:54 PM, (26) RE: Testers needed, Central trains, Jul-15-03, 06:33 PM, (27) RE: Testers needed, Stooopid_person, Jul-16-03, 09:30 AM, (28) RE: Testers needed, smace, Jul-16-03, 11:53 AM, (29) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jul-17-03, 05:54 AM, (30) RE: Testers needed, TomBoyRacer, Jul-17-03, 10:38 AM, (31) RE: Testers needed, beermaddavep, Jul-19-03, 03:47 PM, (32) RE: Testers needed, anas_newcastle, Jul-19-03, 05:04 PM, (33) RE: Testers needed, TomBeevers2000, Jul-19-03, 05:04 PM, (34) RE: Testers needed, Stooopid_person, Jul-20-03, 03:48 AM, (35) RE: Testers needed, TomBeevers2000, Jul-20-03, 05:02 AM, (36) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jul-21-03, 08:11 AM, (37) RE: Testers needed, Owls91, Jul-21-03, 10:25 AM, (38) RE: Testers needed, TomBeevers2000, Jul-21-03, 11:00 AM, (39) RE: Testers needed, mailer_diablo, Jul-21-03, 12:21 PM, (40) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jul-22-03, 06:39 AM, (41) RE: Testers needed, Owls91, Jul-23-03, 04:33 PM, (42) RE: Testers needed, Routemaster J, Jul-24-03, 07:39 AM, (43)

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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 2667 posts

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> Tried to upload a picture, but the server is not
>allowing this right now. These objects have moderatly
>detailed interiors. For use in an Urban setting where you
>would be close to the object. Try uploading the picture now. It should work. I've just tried it.

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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

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These are based on a drawing of an Orion 7 bus. They are the same bus as the simple bus design, just with more detail. The are meant for driving on the right hand side of the road, but I am sure that the Mirror program would create a bus for UK. The picture shows a green one, and a blue one can just be seen behind it. I will send the copies out when I get home this evening.

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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 2667 posts

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The textures seem a bit distorted at the front roof.

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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

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>The textures seem a bit distorted at the front roof.
That is why I want other people to look at it. Is that issue just because I use a poor video card, or is it something in the file.
That image is from track viewer and you would not normally see the object from that view, so even if it is an issue, it may be livable. I just need some other input.

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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 2667 posts

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>>The textures seem a bit distorted at the front roof.
>
> That is why I want other people to look at it. Is that
>issue just because I use a poor video card, or is it
>something in the file.
> That image is from track viewer and you would not
>normally see the object from that view, so even if it is an
>issue, it may be livable. I just need some other input. No, it isn't your video card, it is something to do with the "SetTextureCoorinates" part.

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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

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For those who asked, the files are on the way, and thank you for the help. I lost one or two of the email addresses of people who asked for a copy, so If you do not see anything tonight, re pm me and I will resend tommorow.

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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

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Thank all of the testers. I have uploaded the complex bus objects to the library here. I also added all the bus sets together for a small library of objects, several with colored interior and exterior. There is also a UK style simple white and complex white bus in the library. On of the beta testers wanted one. A small picture of the fleet is below.

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anas_newcastleMember since Jul-11-03 · 33 posts

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Who came up with the invention of bus routes in BVE? It's a pretty good idea to me Can we not have car routes too? Like routes on various motorways?Anas Hassan -

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anas_newcastleMember since Jul-11-03 · 33 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-11-03 AT 02:45 PM (EDT)

It's going to be difficult to do that, but I know it's worth a try. I'm sure I won't get past the first hurdle but we'll see what I can do. I'll try making a motorway sign-board and see if that is going to be successful.PS. Congratulations to Joshim for being the first bus route maker. You know everyone that BVE can lead to so many directions Anas Hassan -

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Routemaster JMember since Apr-14-03 · 210 posts

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It was me Anas. beleive it or not. Please visit my website for more info. Thanks for your interest. The buses I use are my own, But I am testing these objects for smace. They will not be used in my route however, they are not Lodnon buses!! Bye

Joshim,
currently constructing the DLR Route for BVE & Oxford Street BUS ROUTE! Check out my website http://joshimsbveroutes.gamehorizons.net/

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anas_newcastleMember since Jul-11-03 · 33 posts

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Good on you Joshim. I think you just created a new era of the much loved BVE Good on you mate Anas Hassan -

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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

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>I don't understand. Is it a bus simulator mod for BVE? As mentioned I created these as objects for an urban rail route. I needed bus and truck and car objects. I had access to some one who had a good bmp of a bus and asked to use it. I was given permission, so the objects exist. The BMP came from a transit simulator proposal that was announced here ( amoung other places). The link is http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID17/347.html There have been several short demos posted about non rail uses of BVE. Also seehttp://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID17/62.htmlNear the bottom. I did a quick and dirty bus and test route to see if it could be done. Yes indead it can, and as you have seen in prior posts Joshim is hard at making a real route. The thing needed, and Joshim says he is building one, is a drivable believable bus. Note the above thread started about a HiRail type of Maint. Van. Could also be done.

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we1330Member since Jul-8-03 · 6 posts

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How about someone doing a 'proper' bus, the BRISTOL RE?I can supply many photos if anybody is interested.Best wishes, Bob.

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Downunder TomMember since Apr-12-03 · 116 posts

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Sent a email direct to Smace, but reading all this I thought the rest of you might be intrested.I was thinking about the problem of steering and suggested to him about the new trolley buses in USA that use blue lines to follow, so there kind of sterring contoled, this means all we would have to do to create these routes is create road pieces that works as rails with the lines on them. Also just for your intrest Stagecoach N.Z. have also showed intrest in them.Tom

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NathanWhitingtonMember since Apr-8-03 · 127 posts

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Looking good Joshim, don't forget the new version of BVE (in development) allows hand drawn motor patterns (in the train editor, as oposed to the line patters previously used) So a bus would be even more possible in BVE. Love the bus objects too, specially the routemaster, don't supose a regent style bus would ever come about would it --
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leezer3Member since Apr-8-03 · 32 posts

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I have converted this object extremely sucessfuly into a Dennis Dart (The dimensions and windows are correct; All that needs doing is the sides switching and the 2nd door removing) What I think we need next is not necessarily a prototype, but a decent double-decker.Chris Leeswww.bvecornwall.tk- BVE Cornwall: Providing QUALITY Steam for BVE!

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Routemaster JMember since Apr-14-03 · 210 posts

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Soory to spoil your fun guys, But I have produced EVERY type of LONDON BUS! This includes the followingRoutemasters RM/RML
Leyland Titan T
Leyland Olympian L
MCW Metrobus M
Leyland National LS
ALL Dennis DART VARIANTS (Alexander/Plaxton/Marshall/Wright etc..)!!!
All modern Low floor DD's, including
Dennis Trident all bodies, (Alexander/Plaxton/ELC etc..)
Volvo B7TL (Alexander/Plaxton/Wright etc..)
Merecedes Citaro Articulated bus MAL (used on 507/521/436/453)and many more!
These buses will be all be featured in my Oxford Street Bus route, please check my website for details. There will be a bus object gallery coming soon too...

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currently constructing the DLR Route for BVE & Oxford Street BUS ROUTE! Check out my website http://joshimsbveroutes.gamehorizons.net/

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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

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When they are ready I would really like one of the Routemasters so that Stooopid's fish and chips shop can have an advertising icon to use for their new shop at the corner of Main and Thornfilled Park drive.

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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 2667 posts

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> When they are ready I would really like one of the
>Routemasters so that Stooopid's fish and chips shop can have
>an advertising icon to use for their new shop at the corner
>of Main and Thornfilled Park drive.
>So there'll be a Stooopid's Fish and Chip advertisement on a bus?

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smaceMember since Apr-6-03 · 117 posts

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>So there'll be a Stooopid's Fish and Chip advertisement on a bus? Actually the whole bus would be the ad. In the US, UK themed operations often have an older double deck London bus that they drive around or leave parked. The every add on the bus, including the destination sign is for the bar or food location or what ever. This is what I would like to do. That way, Stooopids could be mentioned any where in town or country without a building. A fun thing, usless, but fun.

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Routemaster JMember since Apr-14-03 · 210 posts

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Well, the buses to be used in my route, will be ENTIRELY realistic, so no Stooopids Fish n chippy ads!!! You can use the textures and make one for fun for use in a more light hearted or fictional route, I am sure Tom Beevers NETram might be a good place for on. BTW all over ads are permitted for non passenger operations in London, but passenger buses must be 80% red! However some rear all over ads are permitted. These are unlikely to be included, as the objects can not be generic. Also just for information purposes before anyone else asks about other vechicular objects the following are being made too:London Taxi both old type and new type
Various commercial vans (not just Transits! incl. VW/Mercs)
MANY cars, all realistic at the moment VW Golf as used in DLR and others are on their way incl. all sorts of makes for added realism
HGV's and Lorries have been made (as used in the DLR too)
Police cars that are used in London
Horses!!!Also don't forget the buildings!!! This will be very detailed I expect to exceed the 256 freeobject limit as well as walls and dikes, so this will only work with BVE 2.5! As for the DLR route, it is undergoing some finishing touches and some optimisation so that less stuttering is experienced! (I am starting to experience stutters! )

Joshim,
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TomBoyRacerMember since Apr-19-03 · 116 posts

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on the subject of buses on rails, i believe there is a low bridge in the quayside area of newcastle. the bus is laser guided through the centre and heavily reinforced bricks are used where the wheels pass over.

Routes for BVE

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beermaddavepMember since Apr-7-03 · 9 posts

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HiWhich Newcastle?(Upon Tyne,Under Lyne,NSW)Newcastle upon Tyne did have a short lived experimental bus service to the riverside business park,this was supposed to be guided by wires buried under the road surface over a short section but I dont recall it being a success(wasn't something similar proposed for the millenium dome services?).I suppose a guided bus of this type could be feasibly reproduced in bve(using peoples arms as signals perhaps?)Dave P.

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anas_newcastleMember since Jul-11-03 · 33 posts

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I suppose it's Newcastle Upon Tyne he's talking about. I've seen something similar there before.Anas Hassan -

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TomBeevers2000Charter Member · 109 posts

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Alan should be able to elaborate on Newcastle, he used to be a bus driver there.I'm sure NETram will allow some bus objects to be put to use .Thanks to Joshim, Eternal Traveller and tangy tango Picc v3 will include realistic bus objects on realistic routes!--
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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 2667 posts

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>I'm sure NETram will allow some bus objects to be put to use
>. Hey, but it would be strange to find modern buses in a 1950's route.

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Owls91Member since Apr-16-03 · 20 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-21-03 AT 10:26 AM (EDT)

I dont suppose youve got a Leyland National with East Lancs Greenway bodywork in your extensive repertoire of buses? I could really use one right now!Failing that, the Leyland national LS will do just fine

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Routemaster JMember since Apr-14-03 · 210 posts

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Hi Matt, So thats a GLS you are after, I have an LS object (MK1 Leyland National) and a GLS, is sitting here on my HD. Please send me an email with your email address so it can be sent to you. Please say if you want the LS too!

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