BVE V4 Beta Released !

LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-04 AT 02:51 PM (EST)

Just noticed this todaySorry cant put link up as it wont work,Just click on link on main page where main railway line picture is
dated 07/07/04John

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Thanks a bunch, John! DL'ing it now!

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-04 AT 02:58 PM (EST)

What link? Where do you get it from?

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-04 AT 03:02 PM (EST)

Just A thought,If you are fairly new to BVE DO NOT TRY TO RUN THIS BETA VERSION,it's only come out today and Mackoy is offering NO SUPPORTIt seems to offer both day and night versions of train panels and the glow intensity of the signal lamps can be alteredI won't be DL ing it, but I know many of you will be at ...http://chiba.cool.ne.jp/mackoy/John

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-04 AT 03:11 PM (EST)

I have been playing BVE for 2 Years. I have been on the BVE BETA 4 Link but what link is it?

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From what it appears to be saying, you can specify your own signals, and have a panel that gets dark!
*drool!!!*

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It's a link to the beta.The beta is awesome. It gets tricky because you don't have a startup screen, instead you have to right click, hit open, and manually open what route you want.
Beyond that, it is freakin' awesome! I was just riding the Uchibo line. Some more new sounds, like the clicking of the contols, etc, and the most amazing thing I saw was when I went under a bridge, it had a shadow! What detail!

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-04 AT 04:56 PM (EST)

Mackoy seems to have improved some of the problems I was having with pausing and gradual degradation of performance over time with Watford to Rugby, it's somewhat better now - thank you Mackoy. There are some nice lighting effects, driving an unmodified route with lots of curves espcially a high speed route gives an effect on the ground and objects which isn't unlike the effect of the sun going behind cloud and emerging again - very nice. I don't know of the "ATS plugin" information on the beta site might be useful for anyone who knows a bit of C++ or whatever. If you right click, select Options, then the User tab, and select the Development option, you then get a "Viewer Mode" option on the right-click context menu - another nice feature. Cheers,
Anthony.--
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-04 AT 05:02 PM (EST)

upon attempting to run the ECML I ended up just sitting there unable to move with the whistle blowing and the doors repeatedly banging shut. PLus there is still the problem with panels appearing wrongly sized. possibly an error on my part. However, the columns supporting the roof canopy came up looking amazing, a lot better then before. And the uchibo line was simply amazing. I still don't have english language for the new version. something about it not being available from microsoft.
mackoy really has excelled himself!

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This is the translation of the Beta DL page ...Although the support team is performing the check of this program of operation, since the check of operation in all environment cannot be performed, unexpected fault may occur.
mackoy shall not take responsibility to all damage produced by this program. Notes At the time of installation
.NET Framework It is required When not installed, please install first.
Please install a program and Uchibo Line in a folder different from the old version.
At the time of a play
A menu appears by the right click of a mouse.
The initial folder of selection of a train Since it is a "my document", it is BVE. Route Please move to a folder.
The error disregarded by the old version may come out. "example: < > -- referring to the object is not set as the object instance"
Since a panel is not penetrated by environment, a front field of view may not be seen.
Window It is specification although a text flickers in the mode.
Key Assignment differs from the old version in part. change of key assigning -- <-- an option (O) ...> from -- it can carry out
They are the 6 keys in order to check a timetable in Uchibo Line. (ten key) Please display a timetable by F4 after scrolling to the right.
Data compatibility
ATC does not operate. It is necessary to make ATC himself.
There are some to which a panel does not operate correctly.
A timetable cannot be displayed. It is necessary to create a timetable picture.
The brake valve operation sound of an automatic brake vehicle is not reproduced correctly.
A sound is not correctly read with vehicles.
Signal present may differ.
Download BVE 4 Beta (version in the middle of development)
bve4.0.1649.1986.msi
782kB
2004/07/07 Uchibo Line The BVE 4 temporary correspondence version
uchibo41.zip
5.55MB
2004/07/07

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Its excellent... You can even open/close doors your self! Cant wait to see british routes/trains made for this version. Zane
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While attempting to install it, I'm receiving the following message:
'the language of this installation pack is not supported by your system'Maybe BVE 4B is in japanese lingo?
Is there an english version of BVE 4B available?My PC still uses Win98SE, with BVE 2.6.3 and BVE 2.9 beta installed.
I am using the english language in the regional settings due to BVE compatibility
although my Windows is in Portuguese, maybe could be this the cause?
Any help is very appreciated, I'm stuck here, thanks in advance,Regards,(Now with videos)

John Goncalves, Brazil
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>While attempting to install it, I'm receiving the following
>message:
>'the language of this installation pack is not supported by
>your system'
>
>Maybe BVE 4B is in japanese lingo?
>Is there an english version of BVE 4B available? Sorry Joao,It's the usual problem of Japanese programs on 9X systems, so it looks like unless Mackoy releases a English version 9X users can't run itJohn

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What are frame rates like? Regards, Old Arthur

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-07-04 AT 07:41 AM (EST)

I get between 23.0 - 26.0 fps;edit; I just drove a different route and trains and what getting up to 38.0 fps! :O ;/edit;
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I urge you to download it...It looks amazing in full screen, ignore the FPS I was doing other stuff at the same time. X-City and Northern line are some of the best to try out with it.====================
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Yeah its excellent! Although theres no working AWS anymore.
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-07-04 AT 03:36 PM (EST)

I am having a few problems:
1.Every route I've tried (6 or 7)has generated an error and would not function except for the new Uchibo and my own Blueridge which ran fine.Most routes gave an Unhandled Exception Error(length must be greater than or equal to zero etc.);FGC kept giving a "File Type is not Invalid(yes-Invalid)"error as it loaded, what ever that means.
2.When I renamed the japanese string,so it wouldn't be used, and renamed the english string to "string" so it would be used,the program wants to reinstall,which it does from the installer so the strings are back to what they were.
OS is WinXP,2.9 worked fine (I uninstalled it before installing 4.0)
Anyone else having problems?Any explanations?Thanks

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>2.When I renamed the japanese string,so it wouldn't be used,
>and renamed the english string to "string" so it would be
>used,the program wants to reinstall,which it does from the
>installer so the strings are back to what they were.
>OS is WinXP,2.9 worked fine (I uninstalled it before
>installing 4.0) You must named the japanese string.ini to String-En.ini
and the string-En.ini to string.ini.
Than BVE works without reinstall and the english ini is working.greatings
Martin Finken
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Thanks Martin!Thats one problem solved

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When that version of BVE will be official?And how come frome BVE 2.6.3 and BVE 2.9 Mr. Mackoy jumped to BVE v4?To some of you are those questions stupid, but I'm new at BVE.Thanks

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A very nice work for Mackoy, i love that new version !
..Well, looks like BVE 4 (beta) doesnt like some parts of objects again, i cant run my (wip) route with the latest version of BVE :-\Victor: Looks like Mackoy did a lot of private releases - or something like that. I didnt see BVE 3 coming at all =).See You Later
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The final version will include Evening & Night daytime, All stop stations CSV, Semi-Fast, Fast, "Inter-City" and "Inter-Regio" CSV. Its will include the Rbde 560 (Colibri) swiss train aswell .

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Maybe he called it v.4 when he saw we were expecting a v.3 after 2.9 came out and wanted to show we can't predict what he'll do next-which is true of course.Anyone else getting an "Unhandled Exception" error upon opening an .rw route;.csv routes seem to run ok?

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When you're installing, when you indicate what directory you want to install BVE V4 into, there's an option at the bottom. What does that mean? I've tried installing both of them(uninatlling first of course, then reinstalling with the second option), but I see no difference.

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-08-04 AT 12:17 PM (EST)

>When you're installing, when you indicate what directory you
>want to install BVE V4 into, there's an option at the
>bottom. What does that mean? I've tried installing both of
>them(uninatlling first of course, then reinstalling with the
>second option), but I see no difference. May be choice to install it for all useres or only for you.

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How can I install BVE V4 Beta on USA English version of Windows XP Pro? I installed MS NET Frameworks 1.1. When I try to install BVE, I click on the left button in the first dialog box, the "Y" button on the second dialog box and the only button that I can click on is the "C" button on the third dialog box.

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Yep, I've found myself unable to open any .rw routes up to now. Somebody had better start working on a .rw to .csv converter quick!

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Tom, you are absolutely right. I have a bunch of .rw routes (i find it easier to read, write and edit) and this version is useless if that routes can't be run. Unfortunately, I think that converter won't be offered so soon, it's much more difficult than csv-b3d and b3d-csv object converter.

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Can anyone answer these few questions?1. How can I make the AWS & EB work again or is the not possible?
2. How can I stop the japernse signal speed limits? Because It stops me if im going over the jap' sig' speed limits and cant start it again.
3. Is there anyway I can make it english?
Cheers guysZane
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-08-04 AT 10:15 PM (EST)

I think that Brr functions as an RW > csv converter. I forget if it is 9 or 10, but the route is converted into brrtemp.csv I have not tried it with beta 4 yet, but I guess it would work.Edit Later. I did try with Brr10, it does convert the files to CSV and seems to work, although I did get the unhandled exception error on some routes even when converted.

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>Edit Later. I did try with Brr10, it does convert the files
>to CSV and seems to work, although I did get the unhandled
>exception error on some routes even when converted. I thought .rw files were changed to brrtemp.rw and .csv files were changed to brrtemp.csv? Or I have just not noticed...

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I erased all the brrtemp files, ran brr10 with a rw file and got a brrtemp.csv. I hava actually used this to do the first step conversions from an rw to csv file and then hand edited for extra items.

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Anyone had any luck with a joystick and v4? I tried and just as in 2.9, the programmed buttons (eg. I have the trigger mapped to the train Klaxon sound) on my Sidewinder work but no joy with the axis controls. In other words, no brakes or power. BTW, joystick works fine with 2.6.

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Why does the train lose power at some caution and Stop signals at low speed? Is it something to do with ATS? Cant seem to get ATS keys to work either,any fixes?Regards,
Old ArthurPS Very good frame rates

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Well I really don't know whats going on, however, Ive found if you dont go through the stop signal then youll be ok Also, if you loose power going through green or Caution, next time your at them, make sure you are just rolling through the signal with power at idle.

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Sorry to be so thick, but the download is in .msi format, and my XP Prof deos not know what to do with it!
What do I do now?
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>Sorry to be so thick, but the download is in .msi format,
>and my XP Prof deos not know what to do with it!
>What do I do now?
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XP already have Windows Installer. File msiexec.exe located in system32 folder of your windows. If not, then you just delete it.

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I cant play it coz im getting triped at every caution signal and just as i approach a red! (Me Unhappy)
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Driving routes that dont have ATS, I dont get any problemsOld Arthur

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I get these problems on the New street line and Sandymill Eletic
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Tried running through it with no power?

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yes and it still does it
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I found if I press the HOME key it resets as long as brake is on....Dont get this problem on Edinburgh-AberdeenOld Arthur

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I just wanted to try out BVE Version 4, but I got the same problem as with the 2.9 Beta.After loading a route there is just a black screen, although sounds and controls work very well. With 2.9 the problem could be solved by setting to english environment in the Windows control panel (because I'm using German Windows). But it doesn't work with the new Version 4.Any ideas?

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>I just wanted to try out BVE Version 4, but I got the same
>problem as with the 2.9 Beta.
>
>After loading a route there is just a black screen, although
>sounds and controls work very well. With 2.9 the problem
>could be solved by setting to english environment in the
>Windows control panel (because I'm using German Windows).
>But it doesn't work with the new Version 4.
>
>Any ideas? Problem is in decimal point.Continental Europe using ',' as decimal pointer, while UK, USA and Japan and other some countries using '.' as decimal pointer.
Black screen is a problem of new format of trains, i guess...
I have the same problem...

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I have spotted a few bugs in this new BVE 4 beta, and I hope they are sorted out, some of it is very wierd.I also spotted that it doesn't seem to like b3d and rw files anymore.

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And if you check the BVE official site, you will find the turtorials for rw routes is not there any more either.b2d->csv can be fixed with my converter (shame less self plug). Perhaps we need to consult with the BRR creator to see if he can release the RW > CSV conversion module of BRR10 as a seperate module

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I see that the beta has been updated as well as the uchibo line, there is also some more info on the ATS.
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Does anyone know or have a list of the full keyboard Controls for it? I'm a little rusty on BVE and was excited to return to trainsims when i heard of the new beta only to find i am hopeless at driving it! LOL.

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If you right click on the scree, and go to options, you can see all the controls.

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