Excessive sway?

One of the features I love about BVE is that the cab sways and bounces. That, along with the superior track sounds, sounds of the cab creaking (though seemingly unique to Uchibo and other Japanese trains/routes), and the abubdance of real-life routes gives it that outstanding sense of realism, despite being behind the times in the graphics department.But, while I've never driven a train myself, the swaying does seem a bit excessive. Does anyone agree? Perhaps it is a characteristic of Japanese railways, or is simply Mr Mackoy's personal preference. But when the cab moves side-to-side while you're stationary, you have to wonder (presumably, it's always very windy in BVE land).So a little less sway would be nice. Is the amount of sway a fixed in the program itself, or can it be adjusted in train or route files?

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RE: Excessive sway?, nigelb, May-11-04, 05:06 AM, (1) RE: Excessive sway?, Paul Jobber, May-11-04, 05:10 AM, (2) RE: Excessive sway?, Paul Jobber, May-11-04, 07:56 AM, (3) RE: Excessive sway?, Paul Jobber, May-11-04, 08:08 AM, (4) RE: Excessive sway?, Paul Jobber, May-11-04, 08:10 AM, (5) RE: Excessive sway?, nigelb, May-11-04, 12:02 PM, (6) RE: Excessive sway?, R36 9346, Jun-04-04, 11:16 AM, (7)

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>So a little less sway would be nice. Is the amount of sway a fixed >in the program itself, or can it be adjusted in train or route files.I am not sure about this but I believe the passenger load parameter (part of the .sta command in the route file) may have something to do with this. Download http://union-atlantic.com/download/csvcommands.zip which lists the parmeters for a number of commands (.csv route files, not .rw route files.)Then again it might be influenced by something in the train.dat file but I think the #Move section controls the sway when the train is travelling.If you have BRR (see BVE FAQ topic at the top of the forum) you could try a different train to see if you get the same result, Or you could edit the route file to change the train used. (I'd backup first) Maybe someone smarter than I am can clarify!

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HiThe BVE sway is controlled by the settings of the train, (such as stated track gauge) and the route (.accuracy which controls the state of the track.)The sway of Japanese trains I think would be a little greater than European and American trians owing to the narrower track gauge. British trains sway quite a bit because of the poor state of most British track. LUL train riding is worse still, on some bits it is very rough (the worst seems to be the Piccadilly around Hammersmith which is still terrible despite having been repaired after causing a derailment.)Before the area of track around Miles Platting Junction in Manchester was relaid, travelling there on a Pacer was like sitting on a trampoline.French lines are much smoother and have very smooth riding Corail coaches which put Mk3 coaches to shame. The British Channel Tunnel Rail Link is also very smooth. You can tell when you reach Fawksham Junction in pitch darkness simply by the suddenly improved ride and reduced noise.So really, it depend on the route and quality of stock. It varies.Paul

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Hi againOn the subject of derailmets on the tube, there has just been another one at around 1200 BST at White City. No injuries reported.Paul

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Hi againBrief breaking news report from Evening Standard websitehttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/10689132?source=PAAlso reported on BBC news ticker (they should know, as BBC TV centre and news room is opposite White City station. They can probably see it from the news room window!)Paul

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Et volia, the BBC have just fully reported. Definately not serious. White City is a low speed area owing to sharp curves.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3704101.stmPaul

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Thanks Paul, I knew someone would know more than I do! By the way, BRR (an invaluable add-on) allows you to randomize track accuracy or quality as well as set adhesion. These could also be edited in the route file. Could be interesting to apply these to a familiar route and see if the train sway is changed.

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I know that on the 7 Express line between Junction Boulevard and 61st Street, the track is generally straight, but then again, it isn't. It's comparable to a low accuracy rating in BVE. Those trains coming from Manhattan rock and roll on that stretch, frequently exceeding 40 MPH there.-Robert Marrero

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