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Hi AllHope this works, haven't tried posting an image in here before, so apologies if it doesn't.Sitting here tonight working on my route I decided to see what this would look like. I have no intention of using it in my project, so far, but if I do I will seeek permission before I do.<http://www.freewebs.com/fger/>

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I'm sorry that obviously didn't work. I'll try it one more time, thank you for your patience.RegardsDerek<http://www.freewebs.com/fger/>

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That's cool! what livery is that?

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Its the livery for the new East Anglian franchise, they called it the one group as in one.anglia, one.greateastern.They have already been nicknamed the Rainbow train. They started the franchise yeaterday with a service from Liverpool Street to Norwich.RegardsDerek<http://www.freewebs.com/fger/>

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Hi Fella!!Nice object, but please tell me that this is just an interim livery until they come up with something nicer. That is seriously horrible. Primer grey with ill-matching stripes...? No, no, no, no, no.Bring back Anglia green.Technical Numpty

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-02-04 AT 08:56 AM (EST)


Photos courtesy of Adrian LancerStock Used On Launch
Livery Poll & General DiscussionThe BVE train object looks nice Damon Cox
Virtual Rail - BVE & MSTS
The Siding - Railway Photography

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-02-04 AT 09:54 AM (EST)

Hi Damon,Thanks for that.Doesn't change my opinion of the livery and, living on the onewestanglia route (eh...?), I'm going to be seeing an awful lot of it. I actually think it's worse than the purple that WAGN Railway were using on it's 315's and 317/1's (you don't know how much regular users are going to miss calling it "We Are Going Nowhere Railway").FGER - No great loss there, as they're just exchanging one grey livery for another. Won't make any difference to the Desiro's. You can't polish a turd after all.WAGN - It's about time someone made their mind up about their livery. Between the grey or purple 315's, purple or "green-lined" NSE 317/1's, pseudo-"tube-stock" 317/2's and the rather nice metallic blue of the Stansted Express 317's we never knew whether we had one TOC or five...!! Shame we're going to lose that blue, though.Anglia Railways - For crying out loud, keep the trains in green!! It is the classiest, least fussy livery out there and well suited Anglia Railways reputation of quietly getting on with providing a top-notch service for all it's consumers. It's going to look seriously nasty on their Turbostars too.At least they've given the route some new stock. Oh sorry, my mistake. It's yet more WCML cast off's. 15 year old "Skodas" and DVT's and 25 year old Mk3 stock.TN
Look at it. Face only a mother could love.

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>Anglia Railways - For crying out loud, keep the trains in
>green!! It is the classiest, least fussy livery out there
>and well suited Anglia Railways reputation of quietly
>getting on with providing a top-notch service for all it's
>consumers. It's going to look seriously nasty on their
>Turbostars too. I agree, old Anglia livery was infinitely better than the.. er.. monstrosity that 'one' have come up with. It's like someone let a small child loose near some Mk3s with some blunt crayons. I thought it was an april fool..Sad to see the cans go too, much more character than the Skodas in my opinion.>At least they've given the route some new stock. Oh sorry,
>my mistake. It's yet more WCML cast off's. 15 year old
>"Skodas" and DVT's and 25 year old Mk3 stock. Nowt wrong with Skodas and 3s.. they're comfortable and do the job. Age doesn't make them unsuitable, only the pathetic maintainance they've recieved at the hands of West Coast Traincare. Regardless, I wish we got them staying on Virgin West Coast so that I don't have to suffer travelling on the awful Pendolinos. Count yourself lucky you aren't being crammed (literally) into one of those.Oops.. er, what I meant to respond to say was : Nice screenshot DavidBVE in Glasgow:
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>I thought it was an april fool.. Can't say that that thought hadn't crossed my mind also.>Nowt wrong with Skodas and 3s.. they're comfortable and do
>the job. Age doesn't make them unsuitable, only the pathetic
>maintainance they've recieved at the hands of West Coast
>Traincare.Indeed, and it's an improvement over the outgoing Mk2 stock that has been soldiering on since cascade from the WCML sometime in the late 70's or early 80's (due, might I add, to the introduction of the coaching stock that is now "new" on the Liverpool Street run).My problem is that the East Anglian mainline is yet again the poor relation getting everyone else's hand-me-downs. Probably the last time the line had brand new stock was when Stratford had an allocation of EE Type 4's (Class 40's to those brought up on TOPS), but I'm not even sure of that. The last new stock I can be sure of are BR Britannia Class steam locos...!! I'm also fairly sure that the line out as far as Shenfield has some of the UK's oldest extant OHLE. When are they going to spend some money on this route?>Regardless, I wish we got them staying on Virgin
>West Coast so that I don't have to suffer travelling on the
>awful Pendolinos. Count yourself lucky you aren't being
>crammed (literally) into one of those. Can't say that I've had that pleasure (ahem).TN

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I think everybody thought it was an April fool, but it isn't.I haven't had the chance to see any of this stock in the flesh yet, so I will reserve judgement on it until then.In the meantime, as I am trying to produce a First...sorry One Great Eastern route, I will have to consider using the new livery for that extra touch of realism.Here is a brief look at what my attempt at the newly liveried 321 looks like.
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What gets my back up with this sort of "image change" is that there is a company somewhere out there that has charged the TOC a LOT of do$h for coming up with this ridiculous colour scheme. Then, there is another guy, who gets paid even more do$h who ACCEPTS it. I would be amazed if any one of them had a drop of railway blood in their bodies. If they have, then they should be ashamed. I would fire the lot and give the job to a serious BVE enthusiast. He would probably come up with a great colour scheme without any problem.The money could have been better spent on more suitable stock.'You sure this ain't an April fool?Tony H
Midlands 25Kv

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>'You sure this ain't an April fool?
>
>Tony H
>Midlands 25Kv
Bloody elaborate one if it is.TN

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Bit of an off-topic question. What is First? Is it some sort of Transportation Company? I've been seeing it alot more "Across The Pond". Philadelphia Airport's Busses now have a rather large/unsightly logo that says, "First Bus" on the front corner.Thanks in advance.

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Fastbuck... err I mean Firstbus are a huge empire of bus and train operations... they aren't that highly regarded and that's a reason why they have the nickname Fastbuck from me . The only thing that comes "First" is their profit!--
Tom Beevers
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its definately not first. I have the honour here in Portsmouth to have the bus company First Hampshire.They seem to find it easily acceptable to charge £39 for a months travel in Portsmouth (which for those of you who dont know its an island about 6 miles by 4) its ridiculous!!

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>Fastbuck... err I mean Firstbus are a huge empire of bus and
>train operations... they aren't that highly regarded and
>that's a reason why they have the nickname Fastbuck from me
>. The only thing that comes "First" is their profit!
>
>--
>Tom Beevers
>http://tombeevers2000.free-hosting.org.uk/piccadillybve/ Tom your obnoxious and ridiculous comments never cease to amaze me. The First group are indeed a great company. Their Great Western railway franchise in particular, ran to a strict timetable and put up with accidents and other unfortunate operating problems, and yet they have always pulled through to high standards. I think you should do a little research before you make silly comments like this!--
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>I think you should do a
>little research before you make silly comments like this! I think YOU should do a bit more research instead. Comparing First with TOCs of Britain and TOCs around the world. They are definetely not good.

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>>I think you should do a
>>little research before you make silly comments like this!
>
>I think YOU should do a bit more research instead. Comparing
>First with TOCs of Britain and TOCs around the world. They
>are definetely not good. How so? The First Group are a great TOC and do a hard job keeping the punters happy. I think that slagging companies off to make yourself look good is slightly sad Tom.--
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-08-04 AT 08:23 AM (EDT)

>"I think YOU should do a bit more research instead. Comparing First with TOCs of Britain and TOCs around the world. They are definetely not good." Im going to have go with Nathan on this Stooopid Person , First Great Western after both Southall and Ladbrooke Grove disasters, they've pulled they're socks up and continued to go from strength to strength, even ordered 5 car Class 180's, which I've discovered to be most comfortable and a worthwhile investment in the long run. (They kick the ass of Virgin's class 220's/221's IMHO )
And First Buses in Edinburgh, I've never had a problem with them, mostly punctual and modern.
Can't comment about my local area, as Brighton and Hove and Stagecoach buses dominate the scene.
Cheer's all,

Julian Pope

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First bus Edinburgh good :SI never did understand you Pope :pMind you Lothian Buses ain't much better either. As long as we don't end up as the First North Eastern Railway.

John

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>First bus Edinburgh good :S
>
>I never did understand you Pope :p Lol, well on comparison to Brighton and Hove buses they are good.
Anyway back on topic, Derek, that One Anglia Liveried DVT looks great!
I'll be looking out for George, Zippy and Bungo in the carriages behind Cheer's all,

Julian Pope

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>How an innocent post turns to flames, huh?
>I'm suprised Wulf is still here really, because after
>reading through the post, look at what you are arguing
>about? --> people's opinions. You think they are written in
>stone, that what someone thinks means that that is how it
>really is? no.
>
>I suggest you all read through again, and see how sort of,
>High-School Debate it seems. Oh do shut up Pat. You do go on and on about nothing but a load of drivel. There are too many of you so called 'Peace settlers' who write out chunks of writing about how we should stop debating and discussing things, then about five of you follow up with about the same thing but with different words. It's almost pathetic, none of you have your own opinion you just follow what everyone else says. A little tip for you Pete, if you don't like what you read, then bugger off! Oh and who gave you the right to tell us that we are arguing out of proportion. Infact in my opinion none of this was a heated discussion until the likes of you came along rubbing your nose in it. Do us all a favour and get on yer bike.
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Who's really changed Pete, you or Nathan?Btw, don't come on here moaning about people with personal vendettas and complaining at others, all you ever do is moan about Wulf.

John

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This thread has run it's course. All this over a livery. Grow Up.

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-10-04 AT 01:33 AM (EDT)

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