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cyclone1234Charter Member · 745 posts

Hideous... Just Hideous..
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H3 shows up – image 3And that wasnt the only GEVO today..H3 shows up – image 4

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padre destinaroMember since Nov-26-04 · 132 posts

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LAST EDITED ON Mar-11-05 AT 11:56 AM (EST) by Nels_Anderson (admin)

I Agree with the first guy, they are horrible! Plus that paint! Yuck!


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WCLCharter Member · 537 posts

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Now thats a logo .....It's about time some railroad did a change...Like now the WC all going to CN...It's good to see some new stuff change....Out with the old and in with the new....J

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ns_sd70mMember since Jul-20-04 · 451 posts

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I wouldn't have a problem with it if they kept the cigar band on the front and put the new logo on the sides in yellow, rather than black.

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smp11512Member since Apr-7-03 · 2249 posts

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I'm not going to judge it till I see it in real life. But I agree with Mike, I'm starting to like it ......
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BNSF4999Member since Aug-21-02 · 711 posts

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WCL, did i understand your post right-you actually like seeing CN sh*t replace the WC's beautiful, loud, sharp lookin SD45s? If so, please change your forum name cus CN is the biggest disgrace to American railroading ever...they should have stayed in Canada instead of destroying every American railroad theyve taken over (WC, IC, DMIR, BLE....) !!!!!!!!
Kevin V.
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cn_bayviewCharter Member · 2351 posts

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IC did take over CN... Look who's the president. Everyones favourite, Hunter! CN is nothing more than Chicago Northern now. As for ruining other companies... Better than UP buying them eventually CN has always been running in the US, wheter under Grand Trunk Western, CV etc. So its nothing new...Rob

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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Wouldn't the railways who did bad enough to be bought out by a foreign corporation be the disgrace?Of course not, that'd make your point invalid... H3 shows up – image 18H3 shows up – image 19"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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wctransferMember since Jan-1-05 · 218 posts

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wow , me and BNSF4999 are becoming good friends. How has CN destroyed all the railroads it has taken over? Hmm , yep i have time to right this.Ok first off CN is buying some new locos soon and ALL are stenciled IC, not one WC mind you. I know a train master who had a WC sweatshirt on, and the CN guy told him to get rid of it. What type of B.S. is that?And whats going to happen with the WC cars and engines.Well some EX soo boxcars are getting sold,and obviously some WC engines. Now why would you scrap some engines as well as the WC's.Ok for all you people that saw WC road trains in the late 1990's , how many dirty WC engines did you see, hmm maybe 1 at the most. And now DM&IR who was a pretty cool railroad too , now the cool SD45T-2s are getting thinned, and the SD38's . Where do i stop, CN SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!For all of you that are with me say I!Alec My AOL IM is WC7505Long live the SOO Line and Wisconsin Central

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cn_bayviewCharter Member · 2351 posts

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Ok... It's a fact of life railroads get rid of the old junk and replace them with A) More powerful locomotives B) Fuel efficient C) more modern, generally less maintenance. The soo boxcars are getting sold because they're old and are being replaced with newer boxcars. A pair of SD75I's can replace 3 SD40-2's, so it makes sense to get rid of them. There are still alot around and be thankful CN doesn't pull a UP and slap's a patch on them! All in all, the railroad is run to turn a profit, not to please us foamers.Rob

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wctransferMember since Jan-1-05 · 218 posts

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Yea i see what you mean , but the WC engines were in great shape, then CN comes and , i dont think they ever wash WC stuff, never give them the work the need, and they didnt need much work at all until CN neglected them. But what bothers me is that the CN is pretty much the IC. I cant tell you how many engines i see when someone writes on the hood door with there finger. About a week ago i saw a CN dash 9 , and i quote" Hunter Harrison sucks **** and *****" And oh , golly in the cabs of the units thats all you see . AlecMy AOL IM is WC7505Long live the SOO Line and Wisconsin Central

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mword77Member since Aug-12-03 · 172 posts

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Alec, you still haven't told me how they've "destroyed" the American roads. Listen, the SD45's are nice to look at and pretty to take pictures of, but why do you think WC has all those V20 fuel guzzlers in the first place? Because the big roads didn't want them. With the price of fuel and the maintenence problems inherited with the SD45, it makes more sense to spend the money on newer power. Believe me, if the WC had the money to trade in all their SD45's for SD70's or Dash 9's, the Helm fleet would be a bit bigger today. got a little off topic here so...
The new GEVO paint looks ok I guess...
-Mike

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LRC_lover_9thMember since Jul-19-04 · 314 posts

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I disagree. Its ok 4 them 2 take over some R/R's, thats what happens these days. But just not the DM&IR. I can't 4give them 4 that. Also, CN retains the WC SD45s, even in WC paint. Anyway they've always been more than a Canadian road. They had Grand Trunk Western in the US as well as Central Vermont.As you can see im having a number-y day.-Andy the LRC lover
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wctransferMember since Jan-1-05 · 218 posts

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"Also, CN retains the WC SD45s, even in WC paint"
No , well maybe they keep em in WC paint, but you cant say the retain them.They arent in good shape at all.SadlyAlecMy AOL IM is WC7505Long live the SOO Line and Wisconsin Central

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jac_murphyMember since Feb-19-05 · 5 posts

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"HERITAGE" 3? Where's the heritage in it? One of the better names I've heard for it is the "Powerbarf" scheme... Jacques

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NS_B LineMember since Jun-25-04 · 213 posts

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Like i was saying when they first came out with it, should've kept the ATSF style nose herald and put the new lettering on just the sides.-Jason

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USRailFanMember since Jun-19-04 · 519 posts

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"Heritage" means it is a heritage of schemes from BNSF's predecessor roads. When BNSF takes over NS, the black in H3 will represent NS

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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Sheez, that's almost as bad as NS' paint.*Almost*H3 shows up – image 25"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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CP's new colours beat NS in the crap factor, but just barely. They should have stuck with the multimark, and NS should have hired artists with talent instead of a group of monkeys with black paint.H3 shows up – image 27"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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No. NS has a poorly drawn bland paint scheme. Give up your emotional ties to their crappy livery and get over it.H3 shows up – image 29"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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They'd get the same results from hiring competent graphic artists. This topic is fun!H3 shows up – image 33"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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Claude350Charter Member · 2634 posts

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Well you guys complain about the logo and the paint.How many of you are bringing in that type of revenue? Do you actually think these big railroads care about our thoughts on their logos or color of the paint? When you bring in that kind of money you can afford to do whatever you want with your toys. Claude Debnam NS Piedmont Division Raleigh EastH3 shows up – image 34

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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So? It doesn't change the fact that NS' paint sucks almost as hard as Green Day... H3 shows up – image 36H3 shows up – image 37"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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adambCharter Member · 1496 posts

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>So? It doesn't change the fact that NS' paint sucks almost
>as hard as Green Day...
>H3 shows up – image 39 Quote of the week

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bnsf4794Charter Member · 284 posts

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I agree with a previous poster on this... The new logo looks pretty good on the sides of the locomotive, but they should have kept the cigar-band and cross on the nose. The new logo just doesn't do the nose any justice. But, hey, they didn't ask me before messing with their logo, so that's what they get...John G

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Claude350Charter Member · 2634 posts

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The NS paint might suck but they're sure hauling in money that you or I will never see in this life time Claude Debnam NS Piedmont Division Raleigh EastH3 shows up – image 41

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BNSF4999Member since Aug-21-02 · 711 posts

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>>Hey, black is a classy colorHey John, I believe I was the one who told you that!Kevin V.
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TrueNorthMember since Sep-21-02 · 269 posts

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Anyone who's an Oakland Raiders fan here knows that real men wear black. I actually think that NS & CN have the best schemes around, all business looking. Nobody seems to balk & Penn Central & B&O ols look, strange?Anyway to the so called H3, to me the engine looks naked & very plain, except for the dukes of hazard orange paint which is now to visible without all the decals & personally I hate the swoosh, are they trying to look like they are fast, if so their swoosh is going back wards on the brakeman's side. Although the black looks a bit better than the dark green. Just my opinion, later, Rich.

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ns_sd70mMember since Jul-20-04 · 451 posts

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NS's livery is my second-favorite. UP's wing scheme is my favorite paint scheme. It has yellow, red, blue, and gray all in one convenient package! As far as North America's worse livery, I'd have to give that distinction to the Chessie System (BN's off-white and black-green executive scheme comes in at a close second in that catagory). I mean, who wants to drive around in a red and yellow locomotive with a picture of a kitty-cat on it?

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BN_9402Charter Member · 1433 posts

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What? You think BN's executive scheme is bad? That NS crap must be getting to your head. The executive scheme was by far the best paint scheme ever put on a SD70MAC. Those F units looked good too.Austin

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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Still doesn't change the fact that their paint sucks. H3 shows up – image 45"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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ns_sd70mMember since Jul-20-04 · 451 posts

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> What? You think BN's executive scheme is bad? That NS crap must be getting to your head. The executive scheme was by far the best paint scheme ever put on a SD70MAC. Those F units looked good too.I dunno. I think that a lot of white doesn't go good on locomotives because it looks dirty quicker than any other color. Plus, I think that the green that they used on it was too dark (almost looks black, especially when it gets weathered). I would have preferred this scheme more if they replaced the white with silver and the dark green with their traditional Cascade Green.

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beltontigersCharter Member · 734 posts

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who ever said green day sucks probably likes brittany spears...Last time i checked...railroads didn't perform a poll on if we liked their paint schemes or not...so i guess that means that they really don't care what we think...Kyle Penn
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adambCharter Member · 1496 posts

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>who ever said green day sucks probably likes brittany
>spears... I don't. I don't think Erik does either (...he could )

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Erick_CantuMember since Jun-19-04 · 749 posts

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I dislike them both because they're both mediocre and insult my intelligence.Sorry, I'd rather listen to Dream Theater or old Metallica.H3 shows up – image 52"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!"

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