Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates

I will post updates here on the "Hollywood" type cars that are being developed at Pacific Traction Works - "Oceanlake Division".
First generation after a flat wheel problem ( too low )and before alphas are "cleared":

Here the 637 turns north on Thompson Street.
I still need close-up photos of the coupler details, and trolley shoes.
I've really developed a keen liking for this car!Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, Thirdrail70, Nov-19-03, 07:10 PM, (1) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Nov-19-03, 07:48 PM, (2) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, Thirdrail70, Nov-19-03, 09:23 PM, (3) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Nov-20-03, 01:12 AM, (4) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, Swissie, Nov-20-03, 03:14 AM, (5) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, mrmike, Nov-20-03, 09:03 AM, (6) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Nov-21-03, 12:46 PM, (7) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, Tim Frost, Nov-22-03, 07:04 AM, (8) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Nov-27-03, 01:18 AM, (9) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, mrmike, Nov-27-03, 12:10 PM, (10) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Nov-28-03, 07:03 PM, (11) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, Swissie, Nov-28-03, 07:12 PM, (12) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Nov-28-03, 08:29 PM, (13) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, gatewaycityca, Dec-08-03, 04:56 AM, (14) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Dec-08-03, 12:39 PM, (15) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Dec-22-03, 07:48 PM, (16) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, philmoberg, Dec-22-03, 08:19 PM, (17) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, linkj, Dec-22-03, 10:23 PM, (18) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Dec-22-03, 11:56 PM, (19) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Dec-24-03, 00:48 AM, (20) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, Thirdrail70, Dec-24-03, 09:29 AM, (21) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, trainee, Dec-24-03, 03:19 PM, (22) RE: Pacific Electric Hollywood No.637 - Updates, tryagin, Jan-22-04, 00:07 AM, (23)

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"I've really developed a keen liking for this car!"TimMe too, and you're doing a magnificent job on it.Frederick Dreany
Island Electric, East (on a relative's computer)

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Thanks, Fred! I appreciate that!
You wouldn't happen to have any photos of those couplers hanging around, would you? Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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Tim:
Streetcars of the "Hollywood" type probably used Tomlinson couplers which had MU capability. Looking at web sites under "Tomlinson coupler" (Google) brings up http://206.103.49.193/boston/htm/bvb041.htm
for one, with a photo of a Boston type 5 and a pretty good shot of a Tomlinson coupler from the front. Some of the other sites have ink engineering type illustrations of HO model Tomlinsons. Best I can do at the moment. Again, it's looking great so far.Frederick Dreany
Island Electric, East
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Thanks Fred. But the Hollywoods used something quite a bit more complex. There appears to be an electrical plug on one side with a matching socket arrangement on the other. But I've not come up with any clear views yet.Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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...but still a shot in the right direction, Fred. Getting closer with those couplers. not 100% clear but from the same source:
http://206.103.49.193/pe/htm/pe437.htm
http://206.103.49.193/pe/htm/pe434.htm
http://206.103.49.193/pe/htm/pe435.htm (1st one with the coupler centred instead of swung to the side I see)According to a scaled down, scanned diagramm on www.erha.org, the Hollywoods used a "West. Auto. Air & Electric Coupler" (West. = Westinghouse? Western?) Fred, does it ring a bell by chance, google came up empty with my guesses?Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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Hi all,
The PE Blimps Couplers were converted from AAR to Westinghouse Air & Electric couplers, by the PE Torrence shops in 1942, for MU operation.
More info to follow about the Hollywood cars. BTW the Hollywood cars used a carbon shoe on the trolley pole. My Computer specs are in my profile
Mike
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Still no good 'close-ups' of the couplers, nor controls, nor ends inside yet. But I'll keep searching and wait patiently. In the meantime here it is as of 11-21:

The interior is a temporal substitution until I get all the facts. Does anybody know if the fenders were body-mounted, or truck-mounted?Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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Ok, I brought home 3 books on the PE today:Lines of Pacific Electric
-Northern and Eastern DistrictsLines of Pacific Electric
-Southern and Western DistrictsPacific Electric Album of Cars
-Interurbands Special 39I will look for any and all photos of 600 series cars, scan, and post them tommorow. There are several interior pictures.Tim Frost
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Due to family problems, progress is slow. However I have managed a Portland Traction Co. version while I find out more about the interiors and couplers. The PTC reverted to trolley wheels, and plated over the side doors, and a new paint job, courtesy of PE torrence shops.
PTC 4015 ex PE 675:
PE version awaiting interiors and couplers also. TimTimtimmuir@wcn.net

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Tim,
I eagerly await your PE collection.
Of all the traction lines I have ridden, PE is my favorite.
My Computer specs are in my profile
Mike
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Hi Mike, and all PE fans, I have done some more to the 637. Taking baby-steps here.

These look sharp in a train!

Next up: Floor texture (concrete), seats, controls, and various bits and bobs.Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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> These look sharp in a train!Yes! Couplers, we've got couplers, and off we MU. Are you waiting for the 3-car train now, over there with your camera?Thanks for sharing, Tim. Lukas a.k.a Swissie

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>Are you waiting for the 3-car train now, over there with your camera?You mean this one, Swissie?

You gotta love these Hollywoods!
By the way, those couplers are a stand-in until I get better info. They are a modified Thomlinson-Link design. My thanks to Tim Frost for his kind posting of all the scans from the PE books. They were immensely helpful. As is the help from Jeff, Lukas, Alan, Roy and Mike.
Thanks guys, it's community effort that makes these things possible.Well, back to work!Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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WOW! Looking great, Tim! If you still need more pictures, I have another PE book that might be of help - "Ride The Big Red Cars." I will take a look and see if I can find anything on the couplers. You can write to me off-list too if you want at gatewaycityca@yahoo.com You know PE is my thing!I'm glad you came onboard the TrolleysCA group too.By the way, if anyone else is interested in California trolley lines, Pacific Electric, Los Angeles Railway, etc. - you should definitely consider joining the Yahoo group TrolleysCA. There are a lot of friendly, very knowledgeable people there, and I learned a lot when I was doing research on an old PE line. Chris T.

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Thanks Chris! Tell you what i really need now, is pix of the controller and brake set-up. A good general view of the "Cabview", the end of the car that shows the back of the destination signs and all the details around there.You are absolutely right about TrolleysCA. I've already recieved alot of help from members, and have had alot of questions answered! The same is true for "oregonstreetrailways", another Yahoo! group that has garnered loads of help towards not only the Hollywoods (PTC versions), but many other Portland area traction subjects, and have gained many new aquaintances. It's almost overwhelming the amount of information that is available out there, if you just ask!!!Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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Thanks to:
Paul DeVerter
Rod Fishburn
Jim Walker
It's getting Closer:
Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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>It's getting Closer: It getting so close, I can almost smell the ozone and hot grease. Sweet work, Tim. Thanks kindly. -Phil

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Tim--Beautiful work...but where's the token collection box? (Nothing in Hollywood is free.)'loha, Jeff

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Loha Jeff!Nothing ANywhere is free! Except the trains here! Actually, as soon as I find out what kind of farebox was used, I'll make it. I have my eye on a Johnson farebox at an antique shop nearby, but it'll be several months before I can afford to pick it up, if it's still there.Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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Of course, the Portland Traction units are taking shape alongside the PE units.
(Make mental note: fix that trolley hanger!)Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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These are amazing shots Tim. I love the backgrounds also. These cars are going to be a big hit even with those not previously acquainted with the California traction scene. Wow!Frederick Dreany
Island Electric, East
Tampa, FL

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Hey Tim, You've got mail.

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Lookout I got the Railroad Fever and I hear it's contagious.

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Testing the new marker lights. Looking good, Chuck!
Timtimmuir@wcn.net

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