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Looks like everyone likes Boston so here is the streetcar that operated through Boston's streets and subways before the PCC came on scene. One car is saved and operated frequently at the Seashore Trolley Museum and the other is in Boston used for charters with a pantograph replacing the trolley pole. The original design, was a darker all orange color as the Seashore is. This paint scheme was the last used until their demise in the late 50's. Dallas double ended PCC's were purchased for the last route that needed double ended cars. That was the Northeastern University route which dead ended at the college.This is not complete as of yet but thought it might look good on the viaduct to Lechmere Square Station. Didn't vist Lechmere too often as it meant another fare to get back on to return to Boston. In several weeks it should be all done with a terrific cab shot.Engineer1008

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RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar, tryagin, Oct-07-02, 09:49 AM, (1) RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar, andrew510, Oct-07-02, 04:00 PM, (2) RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar, asamtrak911, Oct-07-02, 10:56 PM, (3) RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar, mharter, Oct-08-02, 11:53 PM, (4) RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar, engineer1008, Oct-09-02, 00:30 AM, (5) RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar, mharter, Oct-09-02, 09:26 PM, (6) RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar, engineer1008, Oct-16-02, 05:29 PM, (7)

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RE: Boston Type 5 Streetcar

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Looks great! I'll be looking forward to this one, and a new cabview! Keep up the good work! Tim

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Member since Aug-23-02 · 45 posts

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Wha? How? I thought that was going to be one of the projects I'd eventually tackle as part of converting Matt Harter's models for MSTS. Is that what you did? It definitely looks awesome, last I knew you were just going to repaint Tim Muir's Brill into the MTA scheme, but this looks really good. Please tell me the wire height will be 5.4 meters, same as the Tokyo line (and my new route) which matches Matt's PCC?I may have some suggestions for you...if that's the case I'll contact you directly when I think them out completely. I definitely like the looks of it, though.However, are you sure about what you said regarding the surviving Type 5s? I know for a fact that Seashore Trolley Museum owns the 5734, which is in prime working condition, BUT the MBTA has had that car on lease for a number of years. It's currently in storage at Boylston station, right behind Picture Window PCC #3295. You may be thinking that this one car is really two cars in two locations...As I recently found out after attending this month's Boston Street Railway Association meeting, the Association purchased Type 5 #5706 around 1960, and has been slowly amassing funds to restore it. One side was replaced by members, but this summer, the car was shipped from its home in East Haven, CT to a rebuilder in Guilford. The goal is complete restoration, now that the Association has raised enough money for that.At any rate...do you need a beta tester? Alex StroshaneBoston Type 5 Streetcar – image 4
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This is wonderful to see, it's a lovely car!I started working on a lefty door version of the PCC tonight, it will have a roof monitor as well. It will be great to see them together down at Lechmere!Matt

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The Type 5 was downloaded over a year ago from a LINK on the the NE Transit Web Site which could have been a website that Matt or somebody else had. It did not come from the Trolley Models Page. It was very detailed but would not run because of the number of faces and points so I gave it up. Recently I renewed my interest and gutted it out and kept the good parts. The couplers where too detailed and the running gear also. The trolley poles were also too detailed for 3D canvas as well as the window glass. It lacked swivel bogies but it had a good roof and body. After cleaning out some unseen detail it now runs on MSTS.There are two Type 5's. I ride one every year at Seashore and the other sits in Boston. They do not shuffle one car around. I am waiting for the Lechmere Station so I can download that.Engineer1008

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If you were working from my type 5 model, it would take a complete reworking to make it into a trainsim model. The models I made way back were not well set up for gaming. I have found it very interesting to represent details with carefuly placed bitmaps instead of polygons, and to split up geometry in such a way that things smooth properly.I use Lightwave to create the geometry and UV maps, then bring the models into 3dCanvas and finish them. This process works well but it is very difficult to make changes to the geometry once a model leaves lightwave. I could use more practice with 3dCanvas modeling. Was the type 5 done in 3dCanvas?Matt

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Yes, the model was done in 3D Canvas. It lacks some of the detail
that you have but it does run as you can see. I tried adding more detail such as roll signs etc and it then crashed on MSTS. Restoring the previous model fixed it. One thought was to leave off the coupler and make it into a bar which would allow me to put some detail back on. I like the advertising signs but right now I cant use themThe one I have I could put on the Train-Sim page as a beta model. It is not going to have see through windows or fancy trucks but it does have texture, logo's, couplers, bogies that swivel and managed to save the detailed body and roof that you did.Engineer1008

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