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pacmancreatorMember since Jul-23-02 · 779 postsJun 12, 2003 10:29 PM

Okay, yes, I'm sure that this has been asked before, but I couldn't find a good answer, so...
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That's actually in the game! How do I make the window transparent???Thanks.-Matt, future Cirque Du Soleil singer-Crime: It's my anti drug -Creating Pac-Man comics for the humorless people out there

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RE: ?????, robertlearmont, Jun-12-03, 08:37 PM, (1) RE: ?????, IcyFire, Jun-12-03, 08:44 PM, (2) RE: ?????, robertlearmont, Jun-15-03, 03:38 PM, (11) RE: ?????, tonka, Jun-12-03, 09:40 PM, (3) RE: ?????, kro52, Jun-12-03, 10:21 PM, (4) RE: ?????, pacmancreator, Jun-12-03, 11:33 PM, (5) RE: ?????, sniper297, Jun-13-03, 09:43 PM, (6) RE: ?????, Kimdurose, Jun-14-03, 06:35 AM, (7) RE: ?????, sniper297, Jun-14-03, 11:23 AM, (8) RE: ?????, kro52, Jun-14-03, 02:20 PM, (9) RE: ?????, Stooopid_person, Jun-15-03, 03:30 AM, (10)

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robertlearmontMember since Apr-8-03 · 261 postsJun 13, 2003 12:37 AM

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I don't know how to make an alpha channel, so how would I know!

Robert Learmont
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IcyFireCharter Member · 2183 postsJun 13, 2003 12:44 AM

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Robert, take a chill pill, ok?
he didn't ask you specifically, He's asking someone who knows what there doing, not someone who thinks they know what there doing

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robertlearmontMember since Apr-8-03 · 261 postsJun 15, 2003 7:38 PM

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Really, I have made alpha channels that work! I know a little on how to do ot, but because this is a good cab, I'm not good enough to suggest something.

Robert Learmont
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tonkaMember since Apr-16-03 · 12 postsJun 13, 2003 1:40 AM

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*reads Robert's post* hmmmm, only from a 12 yr old.
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pacmancreatorthat cabview looks like 1 done by Michael Barthels...unless I just need to have my eyes tested...

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kro52Member since Apr-10-03 · 151 postsJun 13, 2003 2:21 AM

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Matt,
Use your TGATOOL, Open the cabview file texure for that view, open your alpha channel with your paint program and black out (0 0 0) that portion of the window.
KRO52

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pacmancreatorMember since Jul-23-02 · 779 postsJun 13, 2003 3:33 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-12-03 AT 11:35 PM (EDT)

Hi! I very much appreciate your help, but unfortunately, have no good graphics editor. All I have is the junky M$ Paint and TGA Tool2.Here's what it looks like in-game at the moment:
? – image 16 Ummm, would there be any way that I could just send you the .ace file??? If so, then please private message me.If not, then I appreciate youtr help anyways.Thank you so much!-Matt, future Cirque Du Soleil singer-Crime: It's my anti drug -Creating Pac-Man comics for the humorless people out there

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sniper297Charter Member · 4723 postsJun 14, 2003 1:43 AM

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"Ummm, would there be any way that I could just send you the .ace file???"Not a chance, give a guy a fish and he'll stop bothering you for an hour, teach him how to fish and you can have an "accident" and drown him. Or something like that, I forget how it goes.You can do it with MSpaint too. Just click on "Create alpha template", then "send alpha channel to editor", and use the deletion & eraser tools to make everything that isn't window white, reload after edit, export ace with alpha or ace -trans. ? – image 17 Create alpha template, ? – image 18 Send alpha channel to editor (any editor), ? – image 19 Erase-delete-paint white anything that isn't window, save, ? – image 20 Reload after edit, export as ace, -trans or with alpha, ? – image 21 After that you'll have to get into the cab editor, for this one increase the height of the window area (doesn't go all the way to the bottom of the cab window), and move assorted controls & dials around.

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KimduroseCharter Member · 9 postsJun 14, 2003 10:35 AM

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As I am the author of this cabview I am intrigued as to why the alpha channel doesn't work. There is an alpha channel in the original ace file and it works fine on everyone's PC so far. Sounds to me like you've opened it in TGAtool and exported it without the alpha channel.Kim Durose
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sniper297Charter Member · 4723 postsJun 14, 2003 3:23 PM

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All too easy to lose an alpha or render it inop, I've done it a zillion times. I don't have your cabview, for that demo I just copied his last jpeg, resized it to 640x480, and made an ace out of it with TGAtool2.Which reminds me, ALL HAIL MARTIN WRIGHT, THE UNSUNG HERO OF MSTS! ? – image 22 Hee-hee, sorry, had to get that out of my system. For some reason I was just remembering what a pain it was trying to do all this before TGAtool, and there was no way to convert an ace to a bitmap or targa. Making or editing alpha channels with only windows paint to work with couldn't be done at all, and even with PSP-7 it was like trying to get milk from a male ostrich.

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kro52Member since Apr-10-03 · 151 postsJun 14, 2003 6:20 PM

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Hey Sniper,
Matt E mailed the .ace file and yes there was no alpha, I created one for it and mailed it back. Everything is AOK now and yes thank the maker for Martin Wright!! KRO52

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Stooopid_personCharter Member · 2452 postsJun 15, 2003 7:30 AM

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>As I am the author of this cabview I am intrigued as to why
>the alpha channel doesn't work. There is an alpha channel in
>the original ace file and it works fine on everyone's PC so
>far. Sounds to me like you've opened it in TGAtool and
>exported it without the alpha channel. I also have no problems with the 2BIL cab.

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