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I have no problems at all using the Common.Snd folder, but the Common.Cab folder is giving me fits! Part of the problem is that I don't fully understand how it works. For common sounds, you have to put the whole command string in the eng file, i.e. Sound ( "..\\..\\common.snd\\EMD_SD40\\sd40eng.sms" ) Do you have to do this with the Common.Cab, too, or just copy the *.cvf to the specific loco after installing the particular cab (i.e. Dash 7) in Common.Cab?This next section is for JohannSteam. Johann, I've got several of your cabs, and each one gives a couple of different directions. One says to put the CVF_Alias folder and the CabviewJP folder in the GP38 folder (all of this inside the Common.Cab folder). The other says to put the CVF_Alias folder INSIDE the CabviewJP folder. Which is it? Also, the different cabs I have say to copy their contents into the CabviewJP folder, but if I do this, it wants to overwrite your other cab files. I don't think I want to do this- -I want to have several of your cabs, all of them in the Common.Cab folder. If those files overwrite existing files, will I still have each of your different cabs available to use? Nothing in your documentation states whether it does or not. If copying WILL overwrite the other files and create all new cab views (making your other cabviews unusable), how do I put in several of your cabviews WITHOUT them overwriting each other? Thanks! Finally, who created the SD40-2.cvf? I've got that file on my PC, but have no documentation as to where it came from. What's the difference between it and the gp38 cabview? Thanks! Clayton

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RE: Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40-2.cvf?

You can alias as you do the sound. I have hade good success doing it, along with a couple of failures, trying to alias to Dekosoft engines. Or you can just copy the cvf file, not the whole folder.Kevin Arceneaux

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RE: Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40-2.cvf?

Clayton, as I'm at work at present, could you please drop me a E-mail at johanjp@worldonline.co.za explaining again what bug you. I will try and explain what to do to make all your Cabs alias to the Common.Cab folder. It is mainly my latter cabs that are really fully aliased to it. Previous ones did not do it as at that stage I also were mesmerized at how it works. I can assure you that once you get the hang of things, it is actually very simple.
Regards, Johan.

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RE: Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40-2.cvf?

LAST EDITED ON May-21-02 AT 01:03 AM (EDT)LAST EDITED ON May-21-02 AT 01:01 AM (EDT)LAST EDITED ON May-21-02 AT 01:00 AM (EDT)Clayton, while I have a bit of time now....let me try and explain some fundamentals.
Each Loco should have it's own folder under the "Common.Cab" Folder, then under that Folder should be the "CabviewJP" Folder to which the certain files should be copied as requested. See below, the "Tree".

(1) Common.Cab (A)GP38
CabviewJP
Alias_CVF (B)GP38-2
CabviewJP
Alias_CVF (C)RS2
CabviewJP
Alias_CVF Etc....Etc...Etc The name "CabviewJP" has been given to distinguise the files there under to be of my origin.
Also remember that you need not have to modify anything in your *.Eng file, unless so required and thus requested in the "Readme.txt" file for the specific Loco.
Should this explanation not make any sense, Please feel free to E-mail me.
Johan.

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RE: Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40-2.cvf?

That makes more sense! One problem I was having was that one set of your instructions said to put the CVF_Alias file IN the CabviewJP file:1)Common.Cab
_____A) GP38
__________1) CabviewJP
______________a) CVF_AliasWhile another said to put it WITH the CabviewJP folder (like your illustration shows).
The other problem I was having was that I was trying to put all of your GP38 cab versions into the CabviewJP folder:1)Common.Cab
_____A) GP38
__________1) CabviewJP
______________a) GP38 files
______________b) GP38-2 files
______________c) GP38v2 filesThis was causing all sorts of overwriting (naturally), and making a general mess. But now, with your illustration, I think I've got it! Thanks very much! If I can't figure it out from there, I'll be back! Clayton

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RE: Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40-2.cvf?

OK, I've got it figured out and can switch between cabs pretty easily now! Thanks! Now I have a NEW problem, though:DCForum Discussion Forum - Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40 – image 2 What caused this? This was what I got when I switched to one of JohannSteam's cab views in the "New GP38cab" folder (his default name). There are two different gp38j.cvf files in there. One is inside the CVF_Alias folder and one is outside the CVF_Alias folder in the New GP38cab folder. This screenshot is from the one outside the CVF_Alias folder after I moved it into the CVF_Alias folder (after making a back up of the original one, of course!) The "default" gp38j.cvf file worked fine, but when I replaced it with the one outside the CVF_Alias folder, I get the above. Any ideas? BTW- -the cabs are awesome! I like the one where we look out the side window, but that computer screen in the middle has GOT to go! Can't have that on my 1970s Clinchfield locos! Clayton

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RE: Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40-2.cvf?

A search of this forum produced part of the answer for my last question. I figured out what the other problem was, too- -I had kept the default names, while the .cvf file was looking for the "GP38" folder in the Common.Cab. Some working with the .cvf file produced nice results! Here's some screen shots and a couple of more questions:Here's a screenshot of the supposed sd40-2.cvf file that I've gotten someplace:
DCForum Discussion Forum - Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40 – image 3It looks exactly like the default gp38 cab to me, and aliases all of the gp38 files. Maybe somethings different in some of the numbers, but I don't know. Anybody figured out where this thing came from b/c I don't have a clue! Maybe in one of the locos I downloaded? Anyway,Here's a screen of the jp38j file that's INSIDE the CVF_Alias folder that I mentioned in the above post:DCForum Discussion Forum - Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40 – image 4 And here's the one OUTSIDE the CVF_Alias folder (the one that's posted in the thread above, only this one is fixed!):DCForum Discussion Forum - Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40 – image 5 The major difference that I can see is that the controls have been moved around to more appropriate places. I guess the first one was Johan's "work in progress!"Finally, we have this "thing." : DCForum Discussion Forum - Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40 – image 6 I don't know what it is or who it came from, but it came "disguised" in a folder called "gp38cab2," which unzipped into a folder called "GP38Cabj_v2." What is this? A more photorealistic version of a gp38 cab, or some other cab? Thanks!

Clayton

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RE: Common.Cab (esp for JohannSteam) and who made the SD40-2.cvf?

Clayton, I'm glad you got it under your belt now
The latter Cabview....Photo realistic one....is my very first attempt at making cabs.
I will at a later stage re-visit my old cabs and update them to a better image etc. I've learned a lot since then. I hope that you found my "e-mail" to you informative?
Johan.

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