Notice to all visitors and members of the Train-Sim.Com message forums: If you plan on using a signature banner in your posts, we would like to remind you that there is a maximum size for banners. That maximum is 450 pixels wide by 120 pixels high, and not to exceed 25k. Your compliance is appreciated. FORUM RULES Problems? There are two common reasons for problems with logging in and posting messages. The first is that you are running a firewall that prevents your messages from being sent to the server. The other is that you have cookies disabled; the DCForum software requires cookies to work properly.
Can anyone recommend Web sites that have information on tare and gross weights for truck semitrailers (28' 40' 45' 53'). Plan to do some .wag mods and I am looking for good values of weights to use for the mass entries.
RE: Looking for site with trailer info, CARex, Dec-08-04, 10:13 PM, (1) RE: Looking for site with trailer info, sixman, Dec-08-04, 11:19 PM, (2) RE: Looking for site with trailer info, SVTS, Dec-09-04, 02:30 PM, (3) RE: Looking for site with trailer info, westerngy, Dec-09-04, 08:12 PM, (4) RE: Looking for site with trailer info, highball5, Dec-09-04, 10:52 PM, (5) RE: Looking for site with trailer info, sixman, Dec-10-04, 04:14 PM, (6) RE: Looking for site with trailer info, SVTS, Dec-10-04, 05:45 PM, (7)
I’m not so sure the data you are looking for will be readily found on-line.Typical gross (US) is 80,000 pounds. Regardless of trailer size or type. Like most things, there are the occasional exceptions. Huge oversized loads, etc. But your day to day semi-trailer combination is 80K Gross.A sleeper equipped, over the road, tractor is typically in the 16000 to 19000 pound range. A typical freight trailer (48, 53 ft) somewhere in the 17000, 18000 pound range. (Furniture/electronic trailers heavier) A typical freight ‘load’ (cargo) in the 44000, 46000 pound range.Tractor 17.5k Trailer 17.5k TARE 35kCargo 45k GROSS 80kThese numbers are more or less typical. Hope this helps,Have a sparkling day Bob
BobThanks for the reply. The numbers you gave are what I was looking at for the typical 53' trailer. I was thinking that a 28' trailer would most likely have a tare weight of about 55-60% of that with a much smaller of gross because of a single rear axle.
UPS trailers are not very heavy. I use you haul Fedex in a 53' trailer, and they were very light loads, at about 3,000-6,000 LBS. UPS is pretty much the same. Raodway, Yellow and the other LTLs are also somewhat light loads.Chris Bogley Syracuse New York http://photobucket.com/albums/v520/CBP/
Your average over the road truck has a gross weight of 80,000lbs on 5 axles.typically a dry van you can haul on average 50,000lbs cargo.A reefer trl is less more around the 46-47,000lb range.Out west its 12,000 front axle and 34,000 for the drivers and 34,000 trailer axle weight.A single axle trl is less than the 34,000 and its 20,000 on a single. Add axles and more weight is allowed to be carried. Just Rollin Down The Tracks Dale
It's been almost 15 years since I was in the trucking game, but back then (and maybe even currently) Nebraska had a 'bridge law' where gross weight was determined by the distance from the center of the front axle to the center of the last axle. This measurement combined with the number of axles within that distance gave you the allowable gross weight. There were still limitations such as 34,000 pounds on tandems and 18,000 pounds on a single axle. The trucks I drove were 7 axle gravel trucks and pup trailers...a standard tandem dump truck with an air-lift tag axle pulling a 3 axle pup trailer. The tongues on the trailers were stretched to 23 feet to get the maximum 'bridge' without exceeding the overall allowed length (65') of the vehicle. With that set up we could legally gross 97,600 in Nebraska. If we had loads across the river into Iowa, we had to drop the 3-axle pups, hookup a shorter tandem trailer, and load much lighter due to (then) Iowa's 73,280 pound gross weight limit and 55 foot maximum length.
ChrisGiven your first hand knowledge, it would seem that an RTTX TOFC w/3-28' UPS trailers would weigh around:72,000 lbs (freight car) 35,000 lbs (2-45'trailers) (not sure if 17,500 per trailer is good) 12,000 lbs (Cargo) 119,000 lbs or onlt 53.98 metric tons. If Yellow and Roadway are about the same, then the mass used for the RTTX set in the library should be reduced from 95t to around 54t.Would the cargo load be about the same for 28' trailers or closer to the 3,000 lb range?
Wieghts really differ from trailer to trailer. As it was already pointed out, a 45', 48' or 53' trailer's maximum payload is about 45,000lbs. I have run all 3 types of trailers, but with all different type of wieghts. Some loads are light, others are not. Some trailers might have 6,000lbs of clothing going to a east coast (or west coast) distribution center, while another trailer might be fully loaded with furniture or something like that. If you really want to have some realistic wieghts for your TOFC's, make each car different, as long as your trailers do not exceed 45,000lbs each.As for the 28' pups, 99% of the times they are pretty light, though the LTL trailers from Roadway and Yellow would be a bit heavier. I can't recall how much a pup can legally hold, but given it's size and the fact it has one axle on the trailer, I think it is around 20,000lbs. I would say put your UPS pups at around 5,000lbs, and your LTL pups at around 12,000lbs. As for your larger UPS trailers, maybe around 18,000-20,000lbs each.I hope this helps a little, but for the most part, every trailer will not wiegh the same, so as long as you keep them under the legal limit, your pretty safe putting in whatever wieghts you want to.Chris Bogley Syracuse New York http://photobucket.com/albums/v520/CBP/
