MLT rides off into the sunset?

http://www.mapleleaftracks.com/Man does this ever s*ck!I love their stuff.....Chuck Schneider
Chief Cook, Bottle Washer and (Virtual) CEO

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RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, yellowdog, Oct-22-04, 11:21 AM, (1) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, James, Oct-22-04, 11:44 AM, (2) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, LRC_lover_9th, Nov-08-04, 03:46 PM, (44) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, Erick_Cantu, Oct-22-04, 11:49 AM, (3) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, pstraten, Oct-22-04, 11:49 AM, (4) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, CPR_Malice_96th, Oct-22-04, 12:46 PM, (5) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, CGW409, Oct-22-04, 01:01 PM, (6) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, frankoburns, Oct-22-04, 01:26 PM, (7) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, ns_sd70m, Oct-22-04, 01:47 PM, (9) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, century242, Oct-22-04, 01:46 PM, (8) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, ssw, Oct-22-04, 01:47 PM, (10) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, jbooker, Oct-22-04, 02:35 PM, (11) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, CPR_9102, Oct-22-04, 02:48 PM, (12) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, erniep, Oct-22-04, 02:50 PM, (13) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, CPR_Malice_96th, Oct-22-04, 03:03 PM, (14) RE: Hey what about the outstanding CD orders, sinclair97, Oct-22-04, 03:38 PM, (15) RE: Hey what about the outstanding CD orders, AEM7AC 920, Oct-22-04, 05:00 PM, (16) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, HAC, Oct-22-04, 05:25 PM, (17) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, jdtrainman, Oct-22-04, 05:28 PM, (18) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, PeterB, Oct-22-04, 05:45 PM, (19) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, NewEnglandRailFan, Oct-22-04, 05:56 PM, (21) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, crick14a, Oct-22-04, 06:00 PM, (22) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, Mr Fuzzums, Oct-22-04, 05:54 PM, (20) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, UP Wings, Oct-22-04, 06:08 PM, (23) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, Gixxer86g, Oct-22-04, 06:18 PM, (24) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, tomgalbardi, Oct-22-04, 06:57 PM, (26) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, mjs2101, Oct-22-04, 06:48 PM, (25) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, kenya, Oct-22-04, 06:58 PM, (27) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, crick14a, Oct-23-04, 04:36 AM, (28) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, Vern, Oct-23-04, 08:02 AM, (29) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, PeterB, Oct-23-04, 07:43 PM, (34) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, NFortin198, Oct-23-04, 11:08 AM, (30) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, imprezzed, Oct-23-04, 11:35 AM, (31) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, buzzbenz, Oct-23-04, 02:08 PM, (32) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, FURX, Oct-23-04, 06:15 PM, (33) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, marjal, Oct-24-04, 08:08 AM, (35) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, Adam3291, Oct-24-04, 01:30 PM, (36) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, eerbaugh, Oct-24-04, 08:08 PM, (37) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, CP Rail Moose, Oct-25-04, 09:19 PM, (38) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, CP_5731, Oct-26-04, 00:02 AM, (39) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, KVR Nut, Oct-27-04, 02:38 PM, (40) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, doug, Nov-06-04, 05:04 PM, (41) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, marko bevic, Nov-06-04, 05:46 PM, (42) RE: MLT rides off into the sunset?, gp3804, Nov-07-04, 03:56 AM, (43)

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It probably would have been better if they joined in with the other developers of the next train simulation (I forget the various names of them). But, to each his own. . .death. TA, now MLT. Us freeware folks will soon be the only ones left!

Clayton

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holy shi-.VMRS (Pittsburgh Division) Locomotive PainterCheck out my Website http://www.freewebs.com/marias-pass/

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TA's gone too?! Aw, f***!-Andy the LRC lover
EMD all the way!!

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You will always be in our hearts and trains.

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:-\"The F59PHI and Genesis are the lamest excuses for locomotives Amtrak has ever operated - accept it and move on. Hug an F40 before it's too late!""To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
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Chuck,It is sad, but they were trying to run a business after all. And while I don't remember the figures, I do recall that the failure rate for small businesses is very high across the board--from restaurants to gift shops to hobby stores. Everybody here loses in this case, not just them but all of us. Glad I have the Cascade Crossing as a memento, but...Ave atque Vale!Clayton,"Us freeware folks will soon be the only ones left!"I'm not sure that's all so bad. Better a labor of love than nothing. I'm sure we'll all stick with it until something vastly superior comes along. Then the kind of people who like antique cars and steam locomotives will continue fiddling with it until there is no longer a "Windows emulator" to run it!PaulS

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Sad to see them go !!Oh well , I guess it's back to my LRC coaches as theirs ( Dundas ) wont be coming outGood luck MLTLaterTim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg CanadaProud member of the - NO TRAIL CN SD60 - club !!

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Geeze Louise
I go away for a couple days and everything goes to crud.
Goodbye MLT Gary S

43 year old future curmudgen(Hey you kids get offa my lawn!!)

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-22-04 AT 01:27 PM (EDT)

Too bad, they produced some fine stuff...am fortunate enough to have purchased Sandpatch, Cascades Crossing, and the B&O Heritage Pack.....really wanted the "Bridge Line"...Maybe they will put their existing routes back up for purchase?..."Sandpatch" was available on CD through various distributers.(Hastings Video) It was marketed by Strategy First....

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Man, I was really looking forward to the UP pack! MLT's abscence will leave a huge hole in the MSTS community. This really sucks a$$!!

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That does suck
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-22-04 AT 01:49 PM (EDT)

Chuck, you said it a bit more eloquently than I could have.
It sucks. Their SP packs and CC was arguably the best SP stuff around. Danny's obsession with detail and textures that knock your socks off! He's the only one I've seen to get SP weathering "right" Was looking forward to the UP pack soon, but I guess we'll be waiting more. Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas

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I just got MLT's Cascade Crossing last week and I love it.It was a very well liked company and I hate to see them go!They offered quality routes and they will be missed very much.So long to a great friend. Jim Booker
sail@eatel.net

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Damnit... @ school shouldn't be postingFu**! No nothing...UP pack, CP, NS...

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-22-04 AT 02:51 PM (EDT)

That's a real shame. In my estimation MLT's products were the best in the buisness. Hopefully they will be back in another incarnation soon. There is too much talent involved not to make an impact on the hobby in some form or another. Thanks for everything, MLT. cheers,
Ernie

Ahhh, the light at the end of the tunnel.

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-22-04 AT 03:06 PM (EDT)

Maybe I missed the big post somewhere along the lines.But in a comment above First TA .. Now MLT Is TA done as well ?Their website was updated 2 days agoLaterTim Kent – 96th_Malice - Winnipeg CanadaProud member of the - NO TRAIL CN SD60 - club !!

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Will those that have ordered the Cascades crossing CD still get it?Mike

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This really Su**s!!!! I'm sad to see them go AEM7AC 920
How do you like your toast?

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Chuck...
email me on this (or call..)
HAC

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Note the following quote from the MLT website:"For the time being, the finished product will not be available for sale, pending an agreement between the founding members of the organization."This clearly means that they are working on a way to keep the existing products available. In other words, nothing new coming but the old stuff will still be available. Key words: "for the time being".Don't get too panicked yet....JBD

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Although not entirely unexpected, it is still a shock to see MLT fold so soon!Fortunately, I have most of their releases including updates/patches, some of which I had only downloaded a few days ago!!I was looking forward to the release of the UP locomotive pack also. However, from comments in other threads, it appears that this pack may still become available courtesy of Danny Beck (thanks Danny!!) of MLT.Still, it is a sad day that MLT has gone. A former source of good products and services.MLT will be sorely missed!!

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Man, It was a good day until I saw this.Bye Maple Leaf Tracks, It was a pleasure doing buisness with you guys. The routes that I have are the best ones ever. Kicking Horse Pass was an engineering achevement in real life and in MSTS. The Bridge Line, holey crap what a mess of tracks there. I love it. Cascades, Can't say enough. Perfect sounds, perfect textures, etc.I wish I bought more.Damn.-Dave

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From the other side of the pond, just glad I had all their releases,
good routes, good engines, just wish more Canadian routes had been in the making.Sad but what's in the pipe line chap's something new, hope so.??...Rick

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Whoa....um.....well, makes me glad I grabbed the NS Pack so quickly, I knew there was a reason I did that. I'll try and remain optimistic for the future, with TMTS and whatever TA might accomplish.Mr. F

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I don't think we have seen the last of MLT. As was stated on their forums before the website closed, they are going to try to regroup. I think the big thing was, they have been at this for a better part of 3 years (I think). They need a break. I do think they will be back but how soon, I have not idea.
-Brian-

*Proud Supporter of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic*

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-22-04 AT 06:19 PM (EDT)

Damn...MLT RIP.I'll be running Sandpatch this weekend in honor.Hopefully they find a way to get the current stuff out.

"Hold tight,feel the drivers bite,hear the whistle moan.Engine rockin' to the left and right,vibratin' in my bones.Once the locomotive steals your soul,you got a Casey Jones!"---Ian"Lemmy"Kilmister

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I'm very disappointed... I purchased four routes and I'm sure I would have bought some more! Thank you MLT for the superb work!

www.badlandsproject.com

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Tis a sad day indeed! Hate to see MLT go, but I wish you all the very best! MLT has created some great routes and locomotive packs! (Sadly I still have a few I would like to add to my collection.)Mykel

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NO Damn I wanted the LS&I pack anyone have any ideas were to get this route now?

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You can try this site...........Rickhttp://play.com/play247.asp?searchtype=PC&searchstring=trains&page=search&Go.x=18&Go.y=8

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Yeah, Play are pretty good for most things. Of course we don't know what the stock levels are or what arrangements are in hand to re-supply the existing titles if they run low.

Chief Track Welder

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"Play" seem to have a reasonable selection of MSTS add-ons. BUT, they appear to deliver ONLY to European addresses!

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Its a sad, sad day for the train-sim community. MLT was very highly rated in my book. I'm glad I was able to get everything as it was released.It does look like they are trying to figure out a way to keep the products that they have already produced, available for purchase. Thoough we will not see anything new.

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Oh damn...no Dundas....damn, damn, damn.....

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This is sad news indeed!!I kept putting off getting Cascades Crossing - really wish i hadn't now... I was looking forward to setting up some Coast Starlight activities...----------- BUZZ -----------

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!I don't belive it!No CSX pack ...and I was >this< close to buying the NS pack.... I'm glad I bought Cascades when I did....I can't imagine after those most recent products that they could not make a profit. That's unusual..or at least, to me.-Jeffrey

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To Our Valued CustomersAs part of the restructuring process, Maple Leaf Tracks Inc. has ceased operations effective today, October 22, 2004. A shrinking marketplace in the Train Simulator arena has created a situation where MLT could no longer grow financially due to its size. For the time being, the finished product will not be available for sale, pending an agreement between the founding members of the organization. We want to extend a sincere thank you to all our valued customers over the past 3 years. It has been a joy for us to be so involved in such a small community, and to make people happy with the products we developed. Although the company will no longer exist, most members will continue to be involved in the commmunity, some may elect to start their own commercial operations, and some may not. Regardless of their decisions going forward, we are sure everyone will remain active in the community.Thanks for 3 wonderful years of enjoyment!The Maple Leaf Tracks Team.

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This is like biting into an apple and realizing you hate half of a worm.Adam

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I can only hope that once they get away from the business side they will return for the love and make somemore quality add ons. Maybe someday they will be around here adding stuff to the library.

Eric
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Damn!! I was waiting for the Mountain sub.

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Yeah same here, Its tough working the mountain sub in real life!!!
Ryan
Revelstoke, Bc
(Mile 125.7 CPR Mountain Subdivision)
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Have to agree with you. I was waiting for the Mountain Sub also. KHP 1 & 2 only got me hungry for more CP mainline running thru them hills.

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Looks like MLT is returning as "Streamlines". I hope they are still as good as the old MLT. Anyone else know more?

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>http://www.mapleleaftracks.com/
>
>Man does this ever s*ck!
>
>I love their stuff.....
>
yep sure does su*k but their back with new a new approach, sure worth the wait also i guess.anyhow, havin got their stuff must say was getting too boring anyhow,
the routes were similar in content, nothing exciting really, also the train packs were a great buy, but only got them for the sounds
totally worth the $$ for the sounds alone!at present there is just so much new quality stuff avail in the file library, its no wonder that the payware guys are doin it hard.marko

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>>http://www.mapleleaftracks.com/
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>>Man does this ever s*ck!
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>>I love their stuff.....
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>yep sure does su*k but their back with new a new approach,
>sure worth the wait also i guess.
>
>anyhow, havin got their stuff must say was getting too
>boring anyhow,
>the routes were similar in content, nothing exciting really,
>also the train packs were a great buy, but only got them for
>the sounds
>totally worth the $$ for the sounds alone!
>
>at present there is just so much new quality stuff avail in
>the file library, its no wonder that the payware guys are
>doin it hard.
>
>marko Marko,
Since this is post #1, welcome to the forums.
I agree that it looks like they are coming back with a new company, and perhaps a new approach.
However I'm a little curious as to why you say their stuff was becoming boring. There was a large variety in their products, you had Sandpatch and The Bridge Line which were eastcoast routes, KHP, a Canadian route, Michigan Iron Ore, a short line, and Cascades Crossing, a western route. There was quite a bit of variety in their products. I agree that the locomotive packs were excellent and worth every cent, but so were the routes.
For me their appeal was that they mixed things up a bit. I love 3DTS products, but so far they've only done California stuff, but it's still interesting. The terrain and stuff might be similar, but at the same time the details are different and that keeps it interesting.
I also agree that there is a lot of interesting stuff in the file library, but let's face it, many of those routes are also similar. I don't think the problem lies with the company or person developing products, but rather with the limitations of MTST. MSTS it's self can only depict so much as it has so many limitations.Jim.

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