Anisotopic & Antialiasing

Will msts run better with these options on or off. I have a Nvidia G4 Ti4200. Who runs with it and who runs without it.

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I think it's better to have them both turned off. I'm not sure about this. See here if this may help you; http://www.train-sim.com/cgi/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=15990&forum=DCForumID3&archive= Ken Plaza

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Raildriver needs them turned off.nVidia cards will slow down with them,
ATI cards generally will not.

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>Raildriver needs them turned off. I've run 4x FSAA with my Raildriver on both a Radeon 9700 Pro, and x800 Pro. No problems. 6x starts to hunt a bit. Maybe the problem is nVidia cards?>nVidia cards will slow down with them,
>ATI cards generally will not. FSAA will also slow down ATI cards. Aniso doesn't have much effect. FSAA does have less impact on my x800 Pro than my 9700 Pro, but it still slows them down.-Jeff

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I have a nVidia GeForce FX 5200 and I can't find any driver updates for it. The latest update I have is September 6th, 2003.I have version 6.14.0010.5216 (English)-BeaverMon, AKA Ben-
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Try here, I don't know if this will help you: http://www.nvidia.com/page/homeKen Plaza

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-15-04 AT 00:49 AM (EST)

I did, and I got this;
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_61.77It doesn't show what Video Cards are supported. How am I supposed to know I'm not downloading a driver for a card I don't have? Does it support ALL GeForce Video Cards from mine to the latest? I need to know.-BeaverMon, AKA Ben-
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>I did, and I got this;
>http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_61.77
>
>It doesn't show what Video Cards are supported. How am I
>supposed to know I'm not downloading a driver for a card I
>don't have?
>
>Does it support ALL GeForce Video Cards from mine to the
>latest? I need to know. I think it should. Read the readme text after you download it and then decide if you need or will it work for you or not. Only you can decide.Ken Plaza

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-15-04 AT 01:09 AM (EST)

I can't find any E-MAIL support on their site (like their saying "figure it out yourself!").Alright, I'll download it and hope for the best. Maybe it'll make MSTS run faster.
Unfortunally it's not zipped up (it's an .exe). I have to install it just to make sure it's going to work.Crud!!!! ....
"The software you are installing for this hardware;NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200has not passed Windows Logo testing to verify it's compatibility
with Windows XP.Continuing your installation of this software may impair
or destabilize the correct operation of your system
either immediately or in the future. Microsoft strongly
recommends that you stop this installation now and
contact the hardware vendor for software that has
passed Windows Logo Testing."What should I do now? I don't want to hurt my system.-BeaverMon, AKA Ben-
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LAST EDITED ON Aug-15-04 AT 01:18 AM (EST)

Abort the setup if you can. BTW, do you have the AOL AIM or YM so I can talk to you???? My name in YM is the same as in AIM.Ken Plaza

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BeverMon
I am also running a FX 5200. And I am using the 61.77 driver. The card works a lot better. And I also downloaded the new DirectX 9c runtime, which helps more.
The frame rates are a little higher and much smoother.
Good Luck. Of course, the choice is yours, but the new driver really helped, the card that I have.Roger

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>Crud!!!! ....
>"The software you are installing for this hardware;
>
>NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
>
>has not passed Windows Logo testing to verify it's
>compatibility
>with Windows XP.
>
>Continuing your installation of this software may impair
>or destabilize the correct operation of your system
>either immediately or in the future. Microsoft strongly
>recommends that you stop this installation now and
>contact the hardware vendor for software that has
>passed Windows Logo Testing."
>
>What should I do now? I don't want to hurt my system. Ignore the message and keep installing. The message is a generic one that appears anytime you install a driver that is not Microsoft certified, it means nothing. Most of the newest video drivers aren't certified yet, they all show this message.

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>Will msts run better with these options on or off. I have a
>Nvidia G4 Ti4200. Who runs with it and who runs without it. I run 4x FSAA and 16x Aniso.In my experiments, Aniso has very little effect on framerate. FSAA has a huge impact, but I don't mind sacrificing a little performance for better image quality. If I go to 6X FSAA, my Raildriver starts to hunt a bit, so I stick with 4x.-Jeff

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>Will msts run better with these options on or off. I have a
>Nvidia G4 Ti4200. Who runs with it and who runs without it. MSTS visually appears MUCH better with both options enabled. Using AA will lower your fps some, most notable on a combination of slow hardware and limited video card.On a decent system with a good video card, most definitely worth the difference in visual quality. The ability to use these options is one of the main reasons for having a good video card and fast system.I keep my system on 16x AF and 4x FSAA, the graphics are awesome. With MSTS you have to use a command line switch like the following to start MSTS:"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\train.exe" /fsaa /anisotropic You also need to set up your video card with the desired settings.

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I would personally use Anisotropic at all times, and then experiment with FSAA.Anisotropic filtering takes out blur on textures at a distance... if you're noticing this alot, turn it on some. Your fps will take a small hit mind you... but the image quality is alot better.FSAA smooths out jagged models. Personally, I don't really notice it at all when its on... yet it kills my framerate... so I just turn it off.When I finally get around to getting that Radeon 9800... I should be able to run train sim with both on full and get respectable performance. One of ATI Radeon's strong points is running with both enabled and keeping performance up. Nvidia cards seem to have trouble with it... at least the FX series do.

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