Changes to NYC Subway!

New Yorkers and others,
Beginning February 22nd, 2004 ALL 4 TRACKS on the Manhattan Bridge will be open. In May, Coney Island will also open again. Here are upcoming subway service changes:Manhattan Bridge:
: 145th Street or Bedford Park Boulevard to Brighton Beach via CPW Local, 6th Avenue Express, and Brighton Express Weekdays Only. Stops at Grand Street. Replaces in Brooklyn
: 205th Street to Coney Island via Concourse Local (Rush Hours peak direction express), CPW Express, 6th Avenue Express, 4th Avenue Express, and West End Local. Skips DeKalb Avenue except late nights. Stops at Grand Street. Replaces in Brooklyn
: No trains to 9th Avenue midday Weekdays
: Astoria to 86th Street via Astoria Local, BMT Broadway Express, 4th Avenue Express, and Sea Beach Local. Uses Manhattan Bridge. Train skips DeKalb Avenue except late nights. Late nights via BMT Broadway Local, 4th Avenue Local, and Lower Manhattan. Weekends via BMT Broadway Local and Manhattan Bridge. Switches with in Manhattan. Service termiates at 86th Street until 2005
: No change in service. Service terminates at Brighton Beach until May 2004
: Service discontinued. Take in Brooklyn and in Manhattan
: More frequent rush-hour service. Late nights 36th Street to 92nd Street
: Service Discontinued from Grand Street to W4 Street. Take or
: Astoria to Whitehall Street via Astoria Local and BMT Broadway Local Weekdays Only. Replaced by in Brooklyn. Switches with in ManhattanConey Island (Non-Manhattan Bridge):
: Service terminates at Avenue X until May 2004Other Changes:
: Unlikely, but possible discontinuance of service
: New cars will enter service in March. Conversion to CBTC will occur in a few years pending the results of similar service on the line.
: CBTC will be turned on sometime this year with the displacement of the last set of R42s. Trains will run ATO with an operator on standby in the cab during most hours.Division-B will change forever with the arrival of over 1000 R160 cars in the next few years, starting in 2005. Cars to be retired: R40, R40M, R42, R38, R32 (GE Rebuilds first MK Rebuilds last), and R44 (possibly).Second Avenue Subway and extension are scheduled to break ground late this year. South Ferry Loop will be replaced in the coming years with a 10-car stub-end terminal.After 100 years, the greatest subway in the world is still growing!

John

Going Your Way for 100 Years. 1904-2004
"Ladies and gentlemen. For your safety, please do not hold car doors open while the train is in the station."

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Did they ever fix the PATH tracks through Ground Zero?

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A temporary station was built.Stuart D. Guberman
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It's in this month's issue of Trains Magazine. A permanent station has been designed, but it will not open until 2006 when the site is redeveloped.

John

Going Your Way for 100 Years. 1904-2004
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By the way, PATH is a separate entity from New York City Transit. PATH is run by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
New York City Transit is run by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.R1/9 cars are running from Columbus Circle over the Manhattan Bridge to Brighton Beach and around the system on 2/28 and 29. The train departs at 10:30AM from the middle platform at the Columbus Circle IND station (A,C,D). Trains will run over both sides of the Manhattan Bridge on both days. The fare is $40 ($20 for children and seniors) and all proceeds benefit the March of Dimes. All fares will be collected onboard the train, so there is no need to make a reservation. Just show up at Columbus Cirle at 9:30AM (if you want a good position on the train) or 10AM at the latest with $40 dollars for fare, a Metrocard, lunch money, and a camera. See here for Feb. 28 and here for Feb. 29.

John

Going Your Way for 100 Years. 1904-2004
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What is IRT replacing the red trains with?

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They have been replaced with the R-142 and R-142A. Personally, I hope the R-160 contract begins construction soon, because I HATE the Hippos (slang for the R-46) my "R" line gets.Stuart D. Guberman
Chief Operations Officer
Atlantic Coastal Railway
http://www.atlanticrail.com
P32 & Electric MU Engineer
MTA Metro North Railroad
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Sorry, but the R46s are gonna be around for a while. The R160s will replace everything through R42 definitely and possibly R44, but even so, the first cars will probably go to Pitken Yard and not Jamaica Yard.
And yes, the redbirds made their last revenue service run on November 3, 2003, and I was lucky enough be on that train. Attached are two pictures I took on that run.
1) The train arrives at Times Square before its final run to Willets Point. Regular trains terminate in Flushing, but it was easier for the TA to pull it into Corona yard this way.
2) This sign was on the motorman's side of the lead car and the opposite side of the trailing car. It depicts the R33WF/R36WF cars in all of their liveries: Worlds Fair, MTA, White, and Redbird.
I went to the inbound side to board a regular train. When it pulled in, it was a set of R62A cars, a stark change from the colorful redbirds. But at least the Times Square end still had a front window.

John

Going Your Way for 100 Years. 1904-2004
"Ladies and gentlemen. For your safety, please do not hold car doors open while the train is in the station."

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I realize this. But with allocation the way it currently is, with the R32's retirement from active service with the later arrivals of the R160, it would still mean that a few trains on the "R" would be comprised of R160s (and the next order after that would eliminate the R46s.)Stuart D. Guberman
Chief Operations Officer
Atlantic Coastal Railway
http://www.atlanticrail.com
P32 & Electric MU Engineer
MTA Metro North Railroad
http://www.mta.info/mnrPresident, The ACR (Virtual) LocoWorks

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So is the R160 the smart cars seen on the Discovery Channel's Extreme Enginering show? Were the old trains color coded acorrding to what route they used?

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I can't say I've seen the show you're referring to. Plus the R160 hasn't even rolled out of the ALSTOM factory yet, and won't until 2005 at least.But from what I've heard, the "L" line will see CBTC testing later this year, compared to the estimate of at least 2010 only 18 months ago. The R142/142A and 143 were built with options for CBTC control (or so the Bombardier and Kawasaki RailCar websites say.)Stuart D. Guberman
Chief Operations Officer
Atlantic Coastal Railway
http://www.atlanticrail.com
P32 & Electric MU Engineer
MTA Metro North Railroad
http://www.mta.info/mnrPresident, The ACR (Virtual) LocoWorks

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