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This was discussed earlier, but this problem just stays, no matter what I do. I have tried everything, but the 3d-window just keeps jerking when the model should rotate. It barely moves at all when I try to rotate slowly (which I do 99% of time).
I did:
-Xp reinstall, from 3 different cd's (with and without SP1)
-MSTS reinstall
-Directx 8, 8a and 9
-TSM reinstall
-mouse driver reinstall (now it often slows down in windows as well)
(i used Xp driver, Microsoft driver and Logitech driver)
-several versions of Nvidia drivers.Is there anything I can do, the 3d-view is almost unusable now. The problem occurs on Kyro2 machine as well but not as bad as with Geforce4.RE camera has this same problem as well, even MS support didn't help.
This problem is even more annoying.

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RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, baldwin, Oct-08-03, 03:34 PM, (1) RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, enocell, Oct-08-03, 03:47 PM, (2) RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, rpicardi1, Oct-08-03, 08:37 PM, (3) RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, enocell, Oct-09-03, 09:10 AM, (4) RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, calr, Oct-09-03, 12:05 PM, (5) RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, enocell, Oct-11-03, 03:51 PM, (6) RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, calr, Oct-11-03, 04:14 PM, (7) RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly, baldwin, Oct-12-03, 01:43 PM, (8)

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RE: TSM 3d-view doesn't work properly

Sounds like possibly a memory or driver problem of some kind, unlikely to be a problem within TSM or MSTS. When you did the reinstall of XP, did you also reinstall/update the mobo drivers.mervyn@madasafish.com

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Charter Member · 1422 posts

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I changed the partitions in 3rd reinstall, and the formatted the C: drive before the 4th time, so the drivers were updated(SIS chipset, dumped the VIA because of dozens of bugs)
The problem was also with my old mobo, memory and CPU (which are in my 2nd machine. That's the Kyro2 machine)Both machines have Asrock K7S8X mobos, as I got the other from warranty exchange (sent broken out-of-warranty ECS and got this with 18 months new warranty!) Old mobo was MSI K7T. It still works in my 3rd machine...I'm the only person with this problem with TSM?
Note that the problem occurs especially with large sized objects, no need to be very complex. Rotating really slowly doesn't work, faster it rotates smoohtly.

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If you have polygon smoothing set on for a high poly count object, that can cause a 3-d display slowdown and jerkiness. I find that I have to turn it off until I am ready to create the object for MSTS.SRV Ron

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-09-03 AT 09:11 AM (EDT)

It wasn't that. I made a default cube and it still barely rotates until I try to d it fast. Then it spins like mad...It doesn't rotate properly even in wireframe mode.

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-09-03 AT 12:06 PM (EDT)

I had problems a couple months ago when I upgraded both DirectX and my nVidia drivers. TSM would not run. I went back to the previous video drivers and left DirectX 9.0b installed and it worked. You might want to play around the your drivers and DirectX versions to see if you can find a version that works.I think the nVidia driver that didn't work was 43.50 and the one that works is 43.10.
Cal Rasmussen
Beaverton, OR
(My email is in my profile)Columbia Gorge Route (Phase 1 UP side 95%, BNSF side 90%)

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Where did you get those? I found only 43.09, is that the same?
Except that it didn't fix the problem.
Microsoft support told me to install the latest driver when I complained about the RE camera rotation, but there's no driver which fixes that either.

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I just verified the version numbers. 43.45 works with DirectX 9 on my system but 44.03 does not. 43.45 is what I currently have installed.Cal Rasmussen
Beaverton, OR
(My email is in my profile)Columbia Gorge Route (Phase 1 UP side 95%, BNSF side 90%)

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I get mine from the Nvidia site http://www.nvidia.com/page/home Click on Download Drivers at the top of the page. I am using the 43.45 drivers and DirectX 9b, running in XP Pro. Grab that little thing at the bottom and unzip it. I keep mine on the desktop. It gets you into DxDiag without having to go hunt for it. That should give you a pointer into where the problem is.mervyn@madasafish.com

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