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angus987 (64 posts)
Oct-19-01, 08:30 AM (EST) "Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" While Freight Rail in Australia often tend to lash up different classes often enough, I've never seen different types of motive power, hauling a huge coal train south through Hurstville were 3 3860 hp 86 class Electric loco's, with 2 3300 hp 81 class END Diesels, do other railways mix electric and diesels? I've never seen that before! Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... rdfox Oct-19-01 1 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... ge44tonner Oct-19-01 2 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... Macster Oct-19-01 3 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... angus987 Oct-19-01 4 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... petev Oct-20-01 5 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... angus987 Oct-21-01 7 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... dvdhoven Oct-21-01 6 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... angus987 Oct-21-01 8 RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Tod... Napier Oct-22-01 9

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rdfox (46 posts)
Oct-19-01, 12:42 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" Mixing types of motive power used to be downright common in the States, though it's rarely seen any more. Somewhere, I have a book that contains photos of a PRR GG1 electric locomotive teamed up with two diesels of indeterminate model, digging in on a long string of automobile boxcars. Likewise, the same book has a photo of an "all-GE" consist on the Milwaukee Road's electrified Pacific Extension, with a "Little Joe" electric leading four GE diesels. Of course, during the steam/diesel transition era, it was common to see steam locomotives coupled onto diesel-powered trains as helper engines on the steeper grades, too.With the demise of steam power in America, most mixed-type locomotive consists disappeared, due to the rather small percentage of electrified track. When the Milwaukee cut the juice on the Pacific Extension, it diminished even more, and probably finally ended in 1984, when Conrail terminated electric-powered freight service on the Northeast Corridor.RM
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ge44tonner (15 posts)
Oct-19-01, 12:43 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" Here in the US, the Milwaukee road was noted for combining electric and diesel locomotives on the same train. I don't have a photo imediately to hand, but I'm sure that someone else will be able to post a picture. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Macster (155 posts)
Oct-19-01, 06:56 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" Before the Dash 9s were really popular with the BNSF, the lash ups would be incredible and always a joy to see. One I'll never forget was a train with a SD40-2 leading, 2 C30-7s, SD40-2B, GP38-2B, LMX Dash 8, Dash 9 H1, GP50, GP38-2, GP60M and a GP60B.Brian E. Bundridge
Lexington Pacific Model RR Club
BNSF Scenic Subdivision MP 1.77
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angus987 (64 posts)
Oct-19-01, 09:43 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" Cool- thanks guys, I love the fact we can share info from all over the worldAdam Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
petev (4 posts)
Oct-20-01, 05:06 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" You'll find that the 81's were dead attached, going to port kembla for an engine balance.I'm was a freight driver for freightcorp 5 years ago, now driving for cityrail Penrith. petev Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
angus987 (64 posts)
Oct-21-01, 03:00 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" AHHH! That makes sense thanks! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
dvdhoven (81 posts)
Oct-21-01, 02:46 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" Hi,Here in the Netherlands, we have had mixed power for Iron trains from Rotterdam to Germany.One electric locomotive and two diesels, a train of about 4800 metric tons.Another company ACTS is using it from time to time.Dick van den Hoven Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
angus987 (64 posts)
Oct-21-01, 03:03 AM (EST) 8. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" Netyherlans sure seems to have some cool trains, I love the Chris Longhurst NS Trains. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Napier (10 posts)
Oct-22-01, 09:05 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Saw Something Really Freaky Today!" Its not unheard of in the UK. The most recent example I can think of was about 1989 when electrified services were introduced on the ECML. Unfortunately the cars and Driving Van Trailers (Cabbages) were not ready, but the electric locos (Class 91) were. So they took some Diesel High Speed Train sets, removed one power car and replaced it with the electric loco. They then modified the HST power car so that it could remotely control the electric loco. However, the HST trailer cars required AC ETH (HEP) and the Class 91 supplied the standard DC. So they had to keep the diesel power unit running to provide the juice, and the by product was that the diesel could be worked in multiple with the electric, giving 2250 bhp + 6000? bhp for a train that weighed including locos around 380 tons. The performance must have been incredible!! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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