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tryagin (449 posts)
Oct-12-01, 12:45 PM (EST) "PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Tracks for v.4!" In preperation for up and coming v4......


Caught this view from front steps of "Stationmaster's" GN GP-9 using the 5-key.
Looking back,earlier:



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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Trac... sniper297 Oct-12-01 1 RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Trac... tryagin Oct-12-01 2 RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Trac... sniper297 Oct-14-01 3 RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Trac... Kin Oct-16-01 4 Off topic but I know Jim loves his ... Boweavel Oct-21-01 5 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Boweavel Oct-21-01 6 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... sniper297 Oct-21-01 7 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Boweavel Oct-21-01 8 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... chucksc Oct-21-01 9 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... chucksc Oct-21-01 10 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... sniper297 Oct-22-01 12 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Boweavel Oct-22-01 13 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... chucksc Oct-22-01 14 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... patm41 Oct-23-01 18 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... CPR_Malice_96th Oct-23-01 23 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Gixxer86g Oct-24-01 24 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... CPR_Malice_96th Oct-25-01 26 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Gixxer86g Oct-25-01 27 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... CPR_Malice_96th Oct-25-01 28 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... chucksc Oct-25-01 29 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Gixxer86g Oct-26-01 30 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... CPR_Malice_96th Oct-26-01 31 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Gixxer86g Oct-26-01 32 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... ace6879 Oct-22-01 11 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... fredp Oct-22-01 15 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... sniper297 Oct-22-01 16 RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves ... Boweavel Oct-23-01 17 RE: Sheep dmikulec Oct-23-01 19 RE: Sheep dvdhoven Oct-23-01 20 RE: Sheep dmikulec Oct-23-01 21 RE: Sheep DKlemm Oct-23-01 22 RE: Sheep dvdhoven Oct-25-01 25 Ideas riograndedude Oct-29-01 33

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sniper297 (767 posts)
Oct-12-01, 09:36 PM (EST) 1. "RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Tracks for v.4!" I've seen that before too, something about the video driver. I reinstalled the latest TNT drivers a few days ago, (Geforce 2 GTS clone, 64mb AGP) and I haven't seen it since then, but you never know. Oddly enough I tried raising my AGP aperture from the former "sweet spot" of 32 megs up to 128, and for the first time (knock on wood) it's not locking up on me with the higher aperture setting. I'm wondering now if there is some subtle flaw in that one stick of ram I removed, it was about the time I bought it that the problems started.
BTW, I'm sticking with my unrealistic grades, and I'll probably be uploading some hacked .eng files shortly after the route is done (about 3 more weeks), meantime you can always use a Really Usefull Engine for a helper. He doesn't mind if the grades are unrealistic as long as the view is spectacular.Jim Ward
Port Ogden and Northern R.R.
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tryagin (449 posts)
Oct-12-01, 10:49 PM (EST) 2. "RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Tracks for v.4!" Try those PA's Yet? They have UNreal guts for your grades! They're real luggers, unlike their Big Brothers were. Tim Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
sniper297 (767 posts)
Oct-14-01, 11:07 PM (EST) 3. "RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Tracks for v.4!" Nope, haven't seen it yet. BTW, was that disappearing rail on dynamic track or a regular section? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Kin (1 posts)
Oct-16-01, 03:38 PM (EST) 4. "RE: PO&N v3.1 --Tearing up the Tracks for v.4!" I love the PO&E. Can't wait for the next version. Thanks
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Boweavel (1065 posts)
Oct-21-01, 00:06 AM (EST) 5. "Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Commanche 4 Demo
Whoohooo...hunt this demo down fella's its a ripper of a quick little game..And the wind effects coming of the blades over water and sand are something to be seen....Plus you shoot at the little men thru the tree's and little leaves blow everywhere...Im loving it. Helicopter buffs should give it a spin, One level only..But a hell of a lot to shoot at...And the Graphics..Oh the graphics....You guys should see the water...ALL THE SHADES YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE....here it is.. http://www.novalogic.com/store/ Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Boweavel (1065 posts)
Oct-21-01, 08:34 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" LAST EDITED ON Oct-21-01 AT 08:36 AM (EST) The picture Quality does not do this game justice..My order will be on its way for purchase..... Love it ! :} Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
sniper297 (767 posts)
Oct-21-01, 12:53 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Too bad microsoft can't come up with or license that kind of graphics engine. Kinda makes the whole Trainz VS MSTS argument kind of silly when you consider how many attack helicopter sims were released at the same time a few years back. Best eye candy was the one from Interactive Magic, I think. Downloading demo, but just from the screengrabs I would say that it looks like a winner.
Back on topic, need a little help from Country Boys and Cheesehead Packer Backers, I'm trying to make a Dairy:

Couple questions, first is milk loaded in those stainless jugs on boxcars, reefers, pumped into white tankcars, or just sprayed at passing freight trains with a fire hose? I'm just guessing from the few times I've actually caught a glimpse of a Dairy, I don't even know if this is a close approximation.Second, I remember reading somewhere, Tom Sawyer I think, that cows grazing in a herd always face the same direction, downwind or something. If true, are there exceptions? Do bulls face the opposite direction? Mark Twain once said "Everybody's ignorant, only in different areas", and that sure applies to me when it comes to farming. And if horses wear horseshoes, how come cows don't wear cowshoes? And why didn't KUJU include any horses in MSTS objects? Too hard to draw the shoes? And why ain't there any "Amber Waves of Grain" textures?Jim Ward
Chi-Town
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Boweavel (1065 posts)
Oct-21-01, 01:20 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" LAST EDITED ON Oct-21-01 AT 01:26 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON Oct-21-01 AT 01:24 PM (EST)Roflol..Got me in stiches..And as for "Amber Waves of Grain" textures..Wait to you play the Comanchee demo (Oh and print a landscape of the keyboard jpeg-it could save your life )And Dairy farms..Well too bad there werent sheep placed in the objects...As sheep farms I could help you with...Maybe someone could work on fluffy textures for the cows..........Catchya Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
chucksc (499 posts)
Oct-21-01, 04:03 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" As a big city boy all my life I wouldn't know.... However Long ago while on Active Duty with the Navy a friend of mine from Wyoming told me that Sheep are preferable to Cows because you don't have to walk as far to get kissed? I never understood it either....
Maybe we should ask some of the Aussies or Kiwis on here?????
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chucksc (499 posts)
Oct-21-01, 11:46 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Just to prove there maybe some thing to the rumor, here is a Pix of a "New Zealander" on Saturday night with his best "gal"...
(heh! heh! I can feel the heat from the flames of the anti-sheep defamation league already)

I don't know doesn't look like anything I did on my Harley in my wayword youth! ROFLMAO!
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sniper297 (767 posts)
Oct-22-01, 10:59 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" 100% Virgin Wool? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Boweavel (1065 posts)
Oct-22-01, 11:45 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Um...Take it as you will but i was doing that with sheep when i was 13..Cept we hand bag holders on the front and rear of the bike..So there was no up close and personals quite like that picture...Still thats a good one for a laugh..Hahehe 9quickly change subject)How did the chopper game run Jim ? what ya reckon ..pretty darn good !!?..Finished it yet ? Cleared the island of all enemy's ?
I finished it but i havent quite cleared the main island of all those pesky buggers at the back...Hidden in all sorts of nooks and crany's...Man its good fun..Plus refuel as often as you want is a good bonus and No time limit too..Whoohoo (Can ya tell i like this game ;} )Catchya's Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
chucksc (499 posts)
Oct-22-01, 11:52 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" ROFLMAO!
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patm41 (283 posts)
Oct-23-01, 07:47 AM (EST) 18. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers"
well i have the Harley and the beard, cant find any sheep !! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
CPR_Malice_96th (253 posts)
Oct-23-01, 11:00 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Not a big fan of Harleys as you can tell by my motorcycle..Nice to look at, but I like the speed of a SportbikeNo room for sheep or ANY other form of wildlife.Storage space is enough for the CBR manual and maybe a pack of TridentTim Kent
CPR_Malice
Winnipeg, CanadaToday we got snow ...I dont wanna put the frikin bike away yet !!http://www.msnusers.com/TrainSimulatorFanSite/msgattachments/1208 Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gixxer86g (233 posts)
Oct-24-01, 10:09 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" I prefer sportbikes myself.I've got a 1986 GSXR1100 that's in almost mint condition.Winter isn't necessarily a bad thing.While the bike is down this year I may put a turbo on it!125hp and wheelies at 130 aren't enough! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
CPR_Malice_96th (253 posts)
Oct-25-01, 03:38 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" LOL A wheelie at that speed and I'd never get on the damn thing again!!Mines a 97 and in great condition. Rides like a dream, I would love a ZX-9 ( so would my insurance company )BUT I just picked up this one this yaer. They guy had some how only put 21 000 km on it in 4 years. Mind you the riding season here in Manitoba is only 6 months max, I only put 9000km on it since April.Oh well long winter ahead of meTim Kent
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Gixxer86g (233 posts)
Oct-25-01, 05:41 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Actually the 130mph wheelie was an accident.I don't deliberately try to pull wheelies because it's bad for the bike.But with that kind of power it happens whether you like it or not.The strange thing is how manageable the power is.I think my next bike will be a Triumph though.Curious CPR,have you ever been to Loudon,New Hampshire for the AMA national?Lots of great Canadian roadracing fans are there every year.Of course people like Miguel DuHamel and Pascal Picotte help bring them in.It's a great track in a great area. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
CPR_Malice_96th (253 posts)
Oct-25-01, 06:36 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" LAST EDITED ON Oct-25-01 AT 06:37 PM (EST)Nope I have never made it there, I would really love to sometime in my life though. I think somthing like Laguna Seca would be pretty easy for me to head out to though...Its only about a 24 hour drive.....at CBR 600 speeds hehe.PS> K whats so hard on bikes with wheelies ( cause I love em )
Front fork seals / chain / ??? just curious
I know here in Canada it is an automatic 30 day suspension of your licence and you could be charged with reckless driving.Tim Kent
CPR_Malice
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chucksc (499 posts)
Oct-25-01, 11:20 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" OK you guys did it... Here comes the only Harley joke I remember (and I used to ride one 20 years ago)
Question: What is the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?Answer: The position of the dirt bag!
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Gixxer86g (233 posts)
Oct-26-01, 05:56 AM (EST) 30. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Nice bike.Wheelies are bad for the frame at the steering head.It's also bad for the motor because the oil pump is usually at the front.The oil doesn't get pumped into the motor during the wheelie. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
CPR_Malice_96th (253 posts)
Oct-26-01, 06:31 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" LOL on the Harley jokeI guess as far as wheelies go, what you have stated makes perfect sence. Thx for the infoTim Kent
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Gixxer86g (233 posts)
Oct-26-01, 06:43 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" You know that CBR s actually a better bike than mine?Sure my bike has the monster motor,your's has the superior chassis and a very good motor.My first bike is a 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr550 which I bought new.With minor upgrades like a new exhaust and jet kit plus upgraded suspension,it's actually a better bike to ride up in the mountains.I love that GSXR for the same reason people love steam engines,tons of character.It's a rare bike.Sportbikes have improved so much in the 15 years since my bike was built it's crazy.The modern counterpart of my bike,the GSXR1000 makes almost 150hp at the rear wheel right off the showroom floor!But your F3 is still a better every day bike.I've ridden a few(worked in a Honda dealership/performance shop in Nyack NY)and they are excellent machines. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ace6879 (196 posts)
Oct-22-01, 03:19 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" And if a white cow gives white milk....does a brown cow give chocolate milk?? and holstiens (black and white spotted) must give both....just depends on which tit you pull!!!My question...where did you get the black and white cows? All I ever see in the game is brown!!! Plus....I had to get an oxygen tank to breathe again after reading the part about spraying the train with a firehose as it went pass to load it!!! Somehow, I imagine someone somewhere went...HEY!!!!! Theres an idea!!!...LMAO!!!!!We need this humor in here right now!!! I love it!!Kelley Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
fredp (6 posts)
Oct-22-01, 06:02 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" You've never seen a Black and White cow!!!! Holy Cow!
They are Holsteins. Your mega milk producers. The equiviant of the GM of cows! Browns such as Jerseys tend to be higher in butter fat. And what would Woody Jackson paint if he didn't have holsteins... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
sniper297 (767 posts)
Oct-22-01, 07:47 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Baaaaa!
He's talking about in the sim. There's a "cow" and a "UScow" in the "clutter" section of the objects selector, the UScow is from Hershey, PA, the regular cow is the one that thinks it's a dalmation. Looks rather silly chasing a fire truck. Sadly for Bo, no sheep.
Off topic:
Yeah, I tried it, looks great but there don't seem to be a realism setting, so when you tilt it don't change altitude, feels like simplified flight controls. Hopefully there will be a setting for that in the actual sim, otherwise it's an arcade game. The graphics engine is stunning, tho, I didn't know direct3d was capable of that kind of smoothness.
Back on topic, I really do need to know what to use for cars if anyone has any ideas, altho there ain't no reefers (no, Bo, not that kind of reefer) in the original. At least I'm pretty sure you wouldn't use hoppers, they would tend to leak. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Boweavel (1065 posts)
Oct-23-01, 07:06 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Off topic but I know Jim loves his choppers" Actually the simplified controls are what i like so much about the game..Not too real that you get blown out the sky in seconds..But still real enough to get emmersed into some awsome fighting..Finnaly got all the little buggers last night..Great game.
Pity about the Reefers..
As for reefers how about this one ?
CNW cattle car..Should do the trickOk Off to fly choppers again...Catchya's Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
dmikulec (91 posts)
Oct-23-01, 01:17 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Sheep" ACTUALLY ...I stumbled across a UK based MSTS site that did indeed have sheep available for download ... and chickens and ...Unfortunatly my browser crashed before I could save the URL but it's out there, maybe google can find it.Good luck ...BTW: I'd love to see some horses for MSTS as well.David Mikulec
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dvdhoven (95 posts)
Oct-23-01, 01:31 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Sheep" >ACTUALLY ...
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>I stumbled across a UK based
>MSTS site that did indeed
>have sheep available for download
>... and chickens and ...
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http://www.trainsimfiles.org.uk/cgi-bin/models.cgi?action=home&gauge=S&cat=PADick van den Hoven Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
dmikulec (91 posts)
Oct-23-01, 03:10 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Sheep" Thank You sir! David Mikulec
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DKlemm (607 posts)
Oct-23-01, 03:17 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Sheep" Dick;Do you happen to know the person who did the farm animals, duckweed?I'm getting the chickens and sheep, but I could also really use pigs!ThanksDavid Klemm
Illinois Central Route
Illinois and St Louis Divisions
Ver 0.4 uploaded
Working on Decatur IL
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dvdhoven (95 posts)
Oct-25-01, 01:13 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Sheep" Hi,No, I didn't.
But they have a message forum there, just like this one. Register there and post a message for duckweed. May be, you are lucky.Dick van den Hoven Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
riograndedude (1 posts)
Oct-29-01, 12:03 PM (EST) 33. "Ideas" Editied version 3.1 with stations, and engine service areas. Will you put stations and service areas on verson 4?? Oh, Yeah. Go Diamondbacks, go Diamondbacks
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