New metra engine?

I was stuck at a train gate this morning and saw a new engine and paint scheme pulling the metra train (out of chicago). Does anyone know what type of engine this is? to me it looks like the engine that amtrack uses out west.http://www.metrarail.comthe picture should be on the home page of the site. I will post pics later if anyone is interested.

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RE: new metra engine?, smp11512, Jun-25-03, 07:25 PM, (1) RE: new metra engine?, metraup, Jun-26-03, 03:39 PM, (9) RE: new metra engine?, ssw, Jun-25-03, 08:39 PM, (2) RE: new metra engine?, sniper297, Jun-25-03, 11:36 PM, (3) RE: new metra engine?, IcyFire, Jun-26-03, 00:16 AM, (4) RE: new metra engine?, bnsf1959, Jun-26-03, 03:17 AM, (6) RE: new metra engine?, smp11512, Jun-26-03, 00:19 AM, (5) RE: new metra engine?, chucksc, Jun-26-03, 07:58 AM, (7) RE: new metra engine?, smmille1, Jun-26-03, 02:32 PM, (8) RE: new metra engine?, AEM7AC 920, Jun-27-03, 01:20 AM, (10) RE: new metra engine?, ssw, Jun-27-03, 04:11 PM, (11) RE: new metra engine?, chucksc, Jun-27-03, 04:55 PM, (12)

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Post a pic of it so that we are sure of wich one you are talking about ( the one on the homepage changes every time you go there)My website for MSTS Pic's www.msnusers.com/shanestrains

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>the one on the homepage changes every time you go there
They have really changed!I abandoned that sight months ago ( as was the last time I rode Metra when I couldn't find a schedule lying around) because they never updated it!Thanks!
METRAUP

Chicago-Geneva Metra Line

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-25-03 AT 08:40 PM (EDT)

Betcha it was one of those new fangled MP36somethingorothers that Metra and CalTrain are getting from Morrison Knudsen or whatever the nom du jour is. MPI? Boise? MK?

Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas

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Yeah, there was a blurb in the Sun Times a year or so ago saying they were gonna replace the old engines. I think I caught the pic on the second try;

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Fugly Beast!
(no not you sniper, the train )

Shawn Kenselaar, shawnssk@yahoo.com
Screen Shot Forum Mod; Repainter for TKW & YLW
The NYO&W is Gone, But never forgotten!!!

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That's the one they mostly use on BNSF Chicago to Aurora line. I do know they replaced the BN E-9's about 10 years ago. I think BN had about 20 of the old E-9 that was sort of modified. It was a little different than the normal units.
Ken
Muschka Activity Works
(F-Units are courtesy of Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society)

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He also might be talking about one of these ( I found the pic on the site). It is an F59PH36 or something like that . And I think that the one he is talking about that Amtrak is using are the F59PHI's My website for MSTS Pic's www.msnusers.com/shanestrains

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-26-03 AT 08:03 AM (EDT)

That's the new MP36 for MK or BLW or whatever they call them selves this week... They have been doing rebuilds of F40s (s0me that are 90% NEW components) and conversion of GP40s into RP38/40s all for commuter agency... Up until now their most successfull units, sales wise, have been their Kit Bashed F40-3s which are sold as new even though there are significant rebuilt parts...
The MP36 is along the same lines... It uses Remanufactured or "new" 710 prime movers bought from GE parts (Yes GE sells spare parts for GMs - IIRC more of them than GM does ) and their own home brew of electricals and computers....
Early reports are that the 1st units were about as reliable as a DM/DE30 with the exception of their frames don't break in two while parked... I thought there production run was put on hold until the problems could be resolved with only 1 or 2 delivered...Kelley or a couple of the Chicagoland boys could update the rest of us on the status if they get a few mins.FWIW, I think the DE/DM30s and possibly early reports on these influenced NJT to go to Alsthom (?) for their new Diesels...
(Not enough GP40 or F40 chasis in good enough shape to rebuild into commuter engines and the new FRA Tier <whatever> regs making life difficult for the Kit Bashers)Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works

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MP36PH-3S is the full designation.Here's a really long thread about them that dates back to late last year that's still going. http://www.railroad.net/forums/messages.asp?TopicID=4573
A lot to weed through, but there's also quite a bit of info in there on them.

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ewww Talk about some ugly locomotives!!!

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>It uses Remanufactured or "new" 710 prime movers bought from GE >parts (Yes GE sells spare parts for GMs - IIRC more of them than GM >does )Chuck- I'd half swore that they were 645F's... I think 710 is still EMD exclusive.

Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas

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You could be right!
It wouldn't be the 1st time I'm wrong on something like that....
645s are definately available from GE Trans. Systems Parts...Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works

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