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POLL: which of the following do you think is a better locomotive?
Posted by jay611 on Mar-27-03, 04:16 PM EDT

Result after a total of 32 votes

dash 9 13 votes, 40% Vote for this choice dash 8 1 votes, 3% Vote for this choice sd40-2 14 votes, 43% Vote for this choice gp38 1 votes, 3% Vote for this choice rs11 1 votes, 3% Vote for this choice C420 2 votes, 6% Vote for this choice

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wich of the following do you think is a better locomoti... [View All], jay611, 04:16 PM, Mar-27-03, (0) bump, jay611, Mar-27-03, 04:30 PM, (1) RE: bump, somonenamedchris2, Mar-27-03, 04:53 PM, (2) RE: bump, jay611, Mar-27-03, 05:03 PM, (3) RE: bump, plainsman, Mar-29-03, 07:22 PM, (17) RE: bump, plainsman, Mar-29-03, 07:27 PM, (18) RE: bump, plainsman, Mar-29-03, 07:28 PM, (19) Dash9 44CW, cn_bayview, Mar-27-03, 06:04 PM, (4) How About Other....., BN_9402, Mar-27-03, 10:41 PM, (5) bump, jay611, Mar-28-03, 04:30 PM, (6) dash9, jay611, Mar-28-03, 04:36 PM, (7) RE: dash9, calr, Mar-28-03, 05:33 PM, (8) How 'bout Other?, oldrailfan, Mar-28-03, 05:51 PM, (9) RE: How 'bout Other?, CRSD40, Mar-28-03, 07:14 PM, (10) RE: How 'bout Other?, BNSF4723, Mar-28-03, 08:10 PM, (11) RE: How 'bout Other?, ASR_Q301, Mar-29-03, 02:09 AM, (12) RE: How 'bout Other?, Jonatan, Mar-29-03, 11:37 AM, (13) RE: How 'bout Other?, IcyFire, Mar-29-03, 11:49 AM, (14) RE: How 'bout Other?, Dash9_Man, Mar-29-03, 05:29 PM, (15) None of the above..., Matt Vince, Mar-29-03, 06:21 PM, (16) RE: None of the above..., imprezzed, Mar-30-03, 02:51 AM, (20)

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somonenamedchris2Member since Mar-9-03 · 52 posts

RE: bump

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plainsmanCharter Member · 2004 posts

RE: bump

LAST EDITED ON Mar-29-03 AT 07:26 PM (EDT)

This is a lot more complicated question than it seems. First, I assume the result is better at earning it's keep, not better at looking cool or just running fast or pulling a big load. Although it might seem they would go together, they generally don't. The problem is that not all trains need the same power requirements. And although it might be nice to run everything at 80 mph, there really is not a lot of country where that would work without creating a number of problems such as damaged freight, derailments and added wear on the track, extra maintainence, ect. not to emntion the tremendous extra cost in fuel use. Since the resistance increase is not linear with speed, the extra fuel cost can not be offset by more traffic and expedited freight.
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plainsmanCharter Member · 2004 posts

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Now if say 5,800 horsepower is needed to maintain a track speed of 50 mph with a given consist over the major portion of the route, and if there are not severe grades which would need the extra power to keep the pace up the hill, then 2 SD40-2s will manage fine, while one Dash 9 won't do the job, and 2 units wastes a lot of locomotive, as that is 8,760 HP, or 2,960 HP more than is needed. Although the Dash 9 is more efficient, it will not be the best economical choice for lines which have significantly varying weight and types of consist. For mainline work, especially on high speed freight, and even more so if unit trains or rather typical train specs dominate, a high horsepower model may be the best choice. The problem gets to be even more of an issue with 6,000 HP locomotives. A train which would need 7,000 HP is wasting a lot of power with 2 of these units.

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plainsmanCharter Member · 2004 posts

RE: bump


Now in terms of longevity, the SD40-2 has seen a lot more years of service than most models will ever expect to see (a GP9 may also fit into this catagory), and that is a result of fitting the need of the RRs for a lot of varied purposes. Although not the best locomotive for the job, it is a pretty good choice on many of them, and the best for the job, may not work at all on a different job. It is a small enough building block that it does not leave a lot of wasted power tied up on lighter trains, but can be assembled into a workhorse for heavy loads, by using lots of units.
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calrCharter Member · 2376 posts

RE: dash9

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I vote for the SD70Mac. Cal Rasmussen
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oldrailfanMember since Sep-12-02 · 267 posts

How 'bout Other?

My vote would go for the "Big Iron," DDA40X or U50, or even the Big Blow. I know they're all out of service, and they were a bear to operate and ride, but still...

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CRSD40Charter Member · 602 posts

RE: How 'bout Other?

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BNSF4723Charter Member · 796 posts

RE: How 'bout Other?

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ASR_Q301Charter Member · 479 posts

RE: How 'bout Other?

C44-9W's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - all the way! nothing beats 4 BNSF C44's inHeritige 2 paint screaming past on a stack train at 65mph!! Cheers
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IcyFireCharter Member · 1593 posts

RE: How 'bout Other?

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Matt VinceCharter Member · 278 posts

None of the above...

but what about the good old EMD cab units?, a nice F- anyone?
Failing that, a nice bit of Paxman power - a Class 43 (aka the High-Speed Train or Intercity 125)

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imprezzedCharter Member · 110 posts

RE: None of the above...

Nuthin beats a fast fourty ...

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