How come they called the disels for LIRR DM-30-AC and not FL59PHI? EMD did what I did to the name on the FL9. Any answers?-NHtrain
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Wrong name for LIRR diesels
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RE: Wrong name for LIRR diesels
Think of this quote from Shakespeare -- "A rose by any other name..." -- might apply here.Could it be because they're equipped with AC traction instead of DC (which the '59PHI uses)? Maybe... Think of it like this: When GE released the P42, it was the P42, ok....but when they wanted a AC motor equipped and 3rd rail equipped Genesis, they named it the P32AC/DM (well, yes, it's got less of a HP rating, BUT even with 3200 HP, it can still reach 110 MPH ). This, of course, is the type of locomotive that MNRR and CDOT and Amtrak has purchased for NY metro area operations that might need to utilize a dual mode configuration.I'm not too sure if the '59PHI is rated as having a 5900 HP capacity, but I know the DE (or DM) 30-AC doesn't -- they're rated at 3kHP.Stuart D. Guberman
Chief Operations Officer
Atlantic Coastal Railway
http://www.atlanticrail.com
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RE: Wrong name for LIRR diesels
Wow, I could just imagine if the F59PHI's had 5900 hp!! Metrolink trains would be literally FLYING past my place.The EMD F59PHI has (according to Metrolink) 3200 hp. They also have a Cummins auxiliary engine to provide head-end power for the trains. The original bunch of F59's (851-873) came with Detroit 12V-149 auxiliary engines, but in recent years have been changed to the Cummins to match the F59PHI's (874-887).
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RE: Wrong name for LIRR diesels
Stu,"I'm not too sure if the '59PHI is rated as having a 5900 HP capacity, but I know the DE (or DM) 30-AC doesn't -- they're rated at 3k"IIRC the F59s are 3200hp not 5900...IIRC the DM or DE designation was caused by the fact that EMD doesn't build passenger diesels (And only assembles kits with parts from various sources in London, Ontrario... LaGrange basically builds engines and is a ghost town compared to its heydey....
These engines were assembled in Schenectady by Super-Steel from GM supplied components so they could not be called F59s since they aren't at all...Chuck Schneider
(Virtual) CEO
North American (Virtual) Locomotive Works
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RE: Wrong name for LIRR diesels
LIRR's DM/DE30 fleet has been plagued with problems since day one -- at first, everyone was blaming the fact that they were assembled by Schenectady Super Steel Industries.Funny thing is, Amtrak got 21 F59PHI's that were also assembled by SSSI Amtk 450-470), as well as Metrolink's last order for four units (884-887) -- and neither property has had problems with their F59PHI groups.The problem with the LIRR units is that there is too much new technology all at once....meantime, the units are going to Juniata to be rebuilt at EMD's expense two at a time.
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