New high speed, jet engine powered train locomotive

New high speed, jet engine powered train locomotive on the website address below...http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=us&cat=transportationI think it's pretty cool! Thanks to YAHOO! News for the information provided!Adam
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That's nothing, we got floating trains down here in Australia!!!

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Hey Phoenix, has that Maglev project started down there yet?Brian E. Bundridge
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What Maglev project?If you're talking Sydney - Canberra High Speed Link, that never got started.

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Bombardier deserves a good long standing ovation. They have suffered much over the years and continue to deliver there best products yet. once again the have beaten themselfs.-NHtrain

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Im glad they have done this but I wish they could use a diffrent design rather then the Acela body. But I'll take what I can get.The arrow and bars shall return!Firm beleaver in Ceo David Gunn (Amtrak)

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On the Amtrak Train Loco that tilts into turns, does the train crew tilt with it?Also doesn't Amtrak have a train that goes 200 some MPH?How can some engineers bring a fast passenger train into a station and stop without hardly any brake squel?Lastly, like in the movies such as Atomic Train when applying the brakes does it take a few seconds for the wheels to actually start squeling?Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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>>On the Amtrak Train Loco that tilts into turns, does the train crew tilt with it?No, they're programmed with the track
>>Also doesn't Amtrak have a train that goes 200 some MPH?I guess the Acelea could reach that speed
>>How can some engineers bring a fast passenger train into a station and stop without hardly any brake squel?Skill, and the equipment is designed for that. For Example, theoratically, an FP59PH1 can stop from 70 MPH in 35 seconds. Because the FP59PH1 has blended brakes making the stoping power of 2.0 MPH per second from 70 MPH.(October Trains)Greg
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Are them blended brakes without any emergency braking and some quiet stopping?I mean isn't there a Amtrak Train that goes above 200 MPH as normal speed? I thought I heard of one once but perhaps I'm just dreaming.You didn't understand me about the tilt train. Does the crew on the tilt locomotive trains feel the locomotive tilt?Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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One of Bombardier's best works is gotta be this...The Bombardier T1 Subway car. Used widely on the Toronto Transit Comission and in other cities such as New York. Doesn't she look all cozy?
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You didn't understand me about the tilt train. Does the crew on the tilt locomotive trains feel the locomotive tilt?If at all, slightly. I mean u would be going so fast it would be hard to really notice.Greg
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DEAL WITH IT

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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?! floating trains?!

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Yeah, the bogies inflate with air. It was a secret project from the US navy! I've got picture if you want to see it.

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yes!greetings from atspw

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The subway car doesn't look all that cozy. What's the beams for on each side of the back of the subway car?
Don't think you explained yourself too well Andrew.PHOENIX to_the WORLD please post the picture you talked about here.Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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The beams are for holding onto, that thing goes from 50kmp/h to 0 in about 5 seconds sometimes, so you obviously need something to grasp. I'm sorry that you find the T1 un-cozy, I quite like it *~þHÃt*Rat~**~classic american playa~*


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BNSF4723, I find it cosy. I dont know whats the problem with i_totaly_hate_being_social_person,
but since I came here every post he makes(that I've seen) makes me feel he is trying to be jerk to people here.
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If you want to drive the TTC line with the T1, get BVE.-------------My favourite LUL train-------------

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Or you could get someone to do the shape file, and give it my ENG file....wink wink, nudge nudge...Oh well...at least the photos aren't of the Scarberia RT.....<shudder>...Dan

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You guys are funny! As for the T1, I know it inside and out (I'm supposed to ride it everyday - but I take the bus instead. ) They aren't bad trains though, just bad riders. TTC's previous cars had more seats and smaller doorways. Dumbass riders going 1 or two stops would get on and stand right in the doorway and yak-yak-yak, oblivious to other riders getting on or off. So Bombardier made them 'barn doors' (about 5' wide now?). Now the dumb riders treat it like their 'ballroom' space. Seats are smaller, and less of them, and is about as cozy as a cattle car in rush hour. But the ride is smooth, and braking (depending on driver?) is very smooth. And you guys know Montreal uses rubber tires on their subways as well, right? Talk about smooth - but very small cars! Now TTC low floor buses - that's my mode in 'The Big Smoke'.

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BNSF, wrong railings. On the corners of the cars there's like bumpers that don't look anything like handrails. What are they?On passenger trains here in the U.S. usually between passenger cars I see a black, ridged insulator that looks like rubber. From the inside how can they make that look like a wall?
Off topic of this post but on flatcars when trailer truck trailers are carried sometimes they put a few of the trailers over two cars (over the coupler area). How can they do that and the car still be able to turn? Is there rotating jacks under the trailers or something?
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Ahhhh, *THOSE THINGS*.......As far as I can tell, they're simply there to prevent anyone from falling inbetween the cars at a station. Simple, no?Dan

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>You guys are funny! As for the T1, I know it inside and
>out (I'm supposed to ride it everyday - but I take the bus
>instead. ) They aren't bad trains though, just bad riders.
>TTC's previous cars had more seats and smaller doorways.
>Dumbass riders going 1 or two stops would get on and stand
>right in the doorway and yak-yak-yak, oblivious to other
>riders getting on or off. So Bombardier made them 'barn
>doors' (about 5' wide now?). Now the dumb riders treat it
>like their 'ballroom' space. Seats are smaller, and less
>of them, and is about as cozy as a cattle car in rush hour.
>But the ride is smooth, and braking (depending on driver?)
>is very smooth. Yeah, the doors are 5 feet wide, rather than 3 feet, 6 inches on the older cars. But the seats aren't smaller.....they're the exact same size as the older cars. Less padding though...>And you guys know Montreal uses rubber tires on their
>subways as well, right? Talk about smooth - but very small
>cars! Smooth? Not in Paris......to semi-quote the Simpsons, "worst subway ever!" And I somehow doubt that the subways of Montréal are any different...>Now TTC low floor buses - that's my mode in 'The Big Smoke'.
> Low floors, eh? That would mean that you're either an east-ender, or a northerner. Me? I get the "luxury" of frequently riding the TTC's dilapilated Orion III articulated buses.Dan

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SHOW ME THER PICTURE! SHOW ME THE PICTURE!
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Uhhhh, it's earlier in this thread if you'd look.Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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As you said before, I_TOTALLY_LOVE_TRAINS, I helped develop the TTC subway route for BVE with Dave Reage so I obviously know about it. I made some of the textures and provided some background help for Dave. I just wanted the TTC to be in MSTS, I suck at doing 3D modelling but I'd love to do the route... maybe Y-U-S or B-D? hmmn...?? Scarb RT? AHHHH! hehe *~þHÃt*Rat~**~classic american playa~*


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BNSF4723 forget about what he says. He is obviously is on of those guys who have fun talkign crap to others.
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hehe IMHO, I agree... hehe*~þHÃt*Rat~**~classic american playa~*


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OK, w/e you guys think but he made it sound like when he answered me that he was talking about the grab icons beside the doors on the outside of the car and the things I'm talking about don't look like something to grab onto........But, whatever, you can think what you want to.Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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I think you almost answered yourself ITLT before when you said 'bumpers'. If you are reffering to 'the wings' at the front/back exterior of the car, those are 'buffers'. More as a shock absorber/stabilizer for when trains take the almost L shape turns into Union Station. They were garrish things on the ol' Red Rockets (imported from Britain, and they do love their 'buffers' so.), and it's just something that 'stuck' through all designs of TTC cars now.
Hope that helps you out some? Dan - good guessing, I'm a 'northerner'. My backyard is the Davisville yards. Beltline Bridge vantage point is the best!
Actions really slow since Warden Yard came into play, but one can see neat maintenence trains, T1 tests, old rockets off to the scrap yard, garbage trains et al. But I do miss the night sorting and the ol' clang and hiss of the 'original rockets'. Now there's a challange for you BNSF, doing the Davisville Yards!
Is this 'modern day' TTC you planning to tackle, or earlier?
If I score a digital camera, I'm your man! They've changed so much at Davisville now. It used to have a CN rail delivery bringing in the rockets, and a wild service access line that would make Marias Pass gradients look like a matchbook cover.

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Yep, thanks, so don't get mad about the other guy (that helped with the TTC route) didn't tell me what these so called "bumpers" he was right on because he wasn't explaining what I was point too! Thanks again CNfavorite! Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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If you go to Bombardier's website, its called JetTrain.
Its power cars look simalar to Acela Express ones without the pantographs.
Its currently being tested in Peublo,CO. It might run on the Northeast Corridor and planned high-speed coriddors in the Northeast,Midwest,Nothwest & Southwest parts of the U.S.A.(possibly the southeast)Mike
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I even work with my dad at a trolley museum!

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I got a question about the Acela Express. My Dad said since they're having so many problem with the Acela they were thinking about using a 1 car train on that line but he said he may have got his information messed up.How could they use 1 car for all of them many business people?Also has Amtrak tried buying more Acela Locos to see if the one they bought that had the problems was just at fault and not any others?Can a co. call their train whatever they want such as the Acela?Do train bridges have to have clearance for people? The reason I ask is I saw a picture of a train bridge that said before it on a sign DANGER, Close Clearance.NS southbound (above) goes "in the hole" as it meets a northbound (right), at Lynwood.The above text is a description of a photo I saw on a website of a NS Train and Conrail Train at a crossing. What does "in the hole" mean?Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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You are full of questions, aren't you ITLT? No prob's. And glad I helped on the 'buffer' dilema you had. As for bridges, I'm sure safety standards today insist on some type of 'clearance' should any worker/civilian be caught on a bridge span as a train approaches. However, many bridges were built so well looooooong ago that they're still in great shape today, but without the 'safety' features. I'm sure railroads argue that doing major 'safety' installs on these old beauty bridges/trestles may in fact comprimise or even jeopordise the structures integrity, thus evading extra work (and cost) on them.
As the saying goes, a 'Catch 22'. Also, I think the Acela's are facing the demise that CN Turbo's had faced. As any car fan will say, if you drive a Lambourgini at city speed limits all the time, the engine will louse up quickly. I think with the NEC and it's speed restrictions, the Acela's are in much the same fate? And of course with every accident, the speed limits are dropped slightly. I haven't been following Amtrack's news lately, and think Bombardier does a great job - maybe too good for Amtrack? As for names, yes....and no. Bombardier will have a list of names, Amtrak will say 'we want so many of your new design'. Bombardier may have said 'okay, we will deliver you sets of our Tabernac trains'. Amtrak may say 'Whoa, Tabernac? That may sound to french for our US customers, and give our service reps a million questions? Can you tone it down a bit please?' Bombardier goes down their list and may suggest 'Acela - It sounds slightly french, slightly spanish, and our market researchers say it's the most phonetically smoothest name that will instill comfert and confidence in customers US and abroad'. Amtrak mulls it over and says. '25 Ace-la's it is!' And your last question is easy. 'In the hole' simply means you were directed onto a passing track and told to stop possibly while a train with 'higher priority' passes you (either direction).Hope that can help you out some? Now you've got my brain ticking!

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>Do train bridges have to have clearance for people? The
>reason I ask is I saw a picture of a train bridge that said
>before it on a sign DANGER, Close Clearance.
>Normally safety rules impose not to walk on bridges or through tunnels when trains are passing. There's often a phone for the personnel to call the dispatcher to ask information about that.>>How can some engineers bring a fast passenger train into a station and stop without hardly any brake squel?
>
>Skill, and the equipment is designed for that. For Example,
>theoratically, an FP59PH1 can stop from 70 MPH in 35
>seconds. Because the FP59PH1 has blended brakes making the
>stoping power of 2.0 MPH per second from 70 MPH.(October
>Trains) Definitely impossible with TGVs. Those poor engineers try, and they try hard, but that's a task without solution. Their brakes makes horrendous screeches, Addams Family would love them without doubt, it's really a pain, you have to close your ears if you are not far enough. Don't know why, maybe a new design, tailored for high speeds, but definitely not for night transit... Umberto

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What are blended brakes?Is that bridge phone automatically connected to the dispatcher?Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/
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