Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?

LAST EDITED ON Oct-12-02 AT 11:29 PM (EDT)

pic speaks for itself i think. smooookin!
NO I DID NOT TAKE THE PIC...FOUND IT ONLINE. did not know GE locos did this. I knew that if you jump from dynamic breaking to foward in an EMD that it would do this. but GE?

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RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, Poltergeist, Oct-12-02, 11:33 PM, (1) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, Transcon, Oct-13-02, 00:16 AM, (2) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, TexasWestern70Mac, Oct-13-02, 00:33 AM, (4) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, ertfor3, Oct-13-02, 00:28 AM, (3) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, darkfyre, Oct-13-02, 01:17 AM, (5) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, delamaize, Oct-13-02, 10:20 PM, (13) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, BNSF_Dash9, Oct-13-02, 02:57 AM, (6) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, bnsf4794, Oct-13-02, 02:51 PM, (7) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, quaia, Oct-13-02, 08:14 PM, (10) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, Zero, Oct-31-02, 07:43 AM, (20) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, CSX789, Oct-13-02, 04:01 PM, (8) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, IcyFire, Oct-13-02, 04:08 PM, (9) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, darkfyre, Oct-13-02, 08:33 PM, (11) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, Poltergeist, Oct-13-02, 08:35 PM, (12) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, bpratt, Oct-14-02, 00:08 AM, (14) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, highball5, Oct-14-02, 00:12 AM, (15) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, oldrailfan, Oct-14-02, 02:06 AM, (16) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, Claude350, Oct-14-02, 07:07 AM, (17) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, calr, Oct-14-02, 11:46 AM, (18) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, JMan, Oct-31-02, 10:40 AM, (23) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, PHOENIX to_the WORLD, Oct-14-02, 12:19 PM, (19) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, riograndedude, Oct-31-02, 08:49 AM, (21) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, joha107, Oct-31-02, 09:38 AM, (22) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, BNSF4723, Oct-31-02, 06:40 PM, (24) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, PatchCrew, Oct-31-02, 07:11 PM, (25) Like this?, LAHDPOP, Oct-31-02, 10:08 PM, (26) RE: Like this?, PatchCrew, Nov-01-02, 07:40 PM, (27) RE: Like this?, BNSF4723, Nov-02-02, 00:17 AM, (28) RE: Like this?, sn00py, Nov-02-02, 01:07 AM, (29) RE: Anyone want smoked rib grilled on an SF C33?, zachattack, Nov-02-02, 07:02 PM, (30)

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WOW!!!!!!!! What happened there?

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-13-02 AT 00:18 AM (EDT)

What's an EMD demonstrator doing pulling a GE loco? lolP.S. That's the last time I jump from dynams to foward! ------------------------------------------------------------I'll never let go of the railroad that inspired me to be involved with trains, the Union Pacific!John Ekhoff
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<What's an EMD demonstrator doing pulling a GE loco?>
correction...oakway leasing sd60....they have many sd60's....they look like demostrators but they are leased by oakway to various rr's.WOW! 600 POSTS ALREADY? oh well

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I've seen that happen. I saw a Conrail train, going through Port Clinton Ohio in the late 80's, it was the 3rd unit on the train. I first noticed that alot of black smoke came out of the stack then a huge flame. I thought maybe the unit was blowing the engine. Happy Rails Patrick

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Ex-roommate over here was lookin out the window over towards the yard; they had just dragged a GP38 out of the shop, and were testing the engine in neutral at full throttle.. He claims that the engine made a loud 'bang' and flames shot 12' straight up out of the exhaust...
----------if you jump from dynamic braking to forward in an EMD this happens? hmm.. Must've blown out my engine a dozen times on Marias Pass... Now I've seen it all...Except Dynamic Brake Blowout..Hmm..
And just the other day, they were testing another engine in full throttle/neutral...At first wispy white smoke was comin out, then it turned blue, faded to brown and then gray; before it started to dissipate...

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I was a old BN SW 1200 do that once in seattle.









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almost makes u feel like yelling - ALCO! - i have seen it happen on New Jersey Transit U34CH's - in the middle of the night on a passenger train - notches up and bang - a huge flame jumps out. has anyone got the U-Boat Survivors tape by pentax? - it has a Lake Superior and Ismperming U25C doing the same thing lolcheers
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It's most likely caused by an over-rich fuel/air mixture, which means some of the fuel doesn't burn in the cylinder. So now we have atomized fuel being blown out a very hot exhaust manifold.There's also a possibility that a over-lean fuel/air mixture might also cause that to happen. Either way, unburnt fuel is being blown thru a hot exhaust manifold.John G
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>It's most likely caused by an over-rich fuel/air mixture,
>which means some of the fuel doesn't burn in the cylinder.
>So now we have atomized fuel being blown out a very hot
>exhaust manifold.
>There's also a possibility that a over-lean fuel/air mixture
>might also cause that to happen. Either way, unburnt fuel
>is being blown thru a hot exhaust manifold.
>John G An over-lean mix can definitely not be. Diesel engines always run lean. In fact, air charge is always full, and the throttle regulates diesel fuel quantity only. So, when not fully throttled, the mix is always lean.Actually, even if the mix is a little rich, that's pratically impossible. It must be associated to a major problem, like one or more exhaust valves stuck slightly open during power stroke due to faulty lubrication. The combustion leaks out of the cylinder and burns the unburned fuel in the exhaust too.
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You are absolutely right. It can't be mixture. i wondered if it could be a massive build up of soot which then ignites, in much the same was as a house chimney fire.

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was this taken in Tech over Aggies game weekend in Lubbock

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Hmm.. These spare ribs have a slight, diesel fuel flavor to them.. hmmm..
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-13-02 AT 08:34 PM (EDT)

So if an engine that just came out of the shop spewed flames 12' or so up in the air..Would it be the mechanics' fault? Or does that just happen by chance?
Last night they were testing an engine, something was knocking/scraping VERY loudly..Sounded as if were gonna blow at any moment

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-13-02 AT 08:36 PM (EDT)

I retract my statement seeing that I have no idea what I just said! :-D

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Hey - no problem. That's just the afterburner. Bill

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Could this be Amtrak's solution to trains running late? A little JP8 in the tank,
hold on tight, and put it in 8 so you won't be late!

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At the San Diego Railroad Museum, we ran for years on donated JetA. As far as a diesel engine is concerned, Jet Fuel is just really nice diesel. (also, practically no smoke)
More 'n likely, this engine was in the process of eating a piston and f**ting it out thru the turbo. We had the same thing happen to an RS-3 once. Nice catch on the photo, the event lasts about 5 seconds before everything is enveloped in white smoke.

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Now that everyone has stated what they think it is this is the real answer.This GE has a blown turbocharger.Yes it will do this when the turbocharger isn't operating correctly.It's not as bad on EMD products as it is on the GE's.Thank goodness for EMD products.We need more of them here in the library.

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Now that fits right in with an idea I've had for awhile now. You know how many crazy idiots there are driving our streets and highways. I got this idea to mount three flame throwers in my vehicle. One pointed straight back and one pointing out on each side. The three flame jets would be remote controlled from the driver seat. Then if one of those idiots starts tailgaiting you or is about pass you and blow you off the road, just give a couple shots of the flame and see what he does! So, you ask, what does this have to do with railroading? Well you could do it at a railroad crossing!Cal Rasmussen
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Hey Cal, You can see a flame thrower on a car in action on this site.http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/L8r,JMan

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BBQ Santa Fe engine????? YUMMY!!!!!!!!!!That's one trick I'll be doing next time I get control of a loco NOT!

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Saw a Union Pacific Dash-8 do the same thing 3 years back, on a school bus 2 miles away and you could see the flames as clear as day, I knew that it was probely just fuel not combusting in the cylinders or nothing dangerous, but some of those kids did duck below the windows.

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saw that happen once on a CNW dash 9 a few years ago as it was pulling a train out of syracuse, ny. flames and smoke started coming out the exhaust as it throttled up. and dammit my camera shut off when i went to take the picture of it.joe

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I'd love to see more pics like this but I can't find any... *~þHÃt*Rat~**~classic american playa~*


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I can't speak for the unit in the picture but back in 1995 when the SP C44-9W's (8100 - 8200) were new they would often throw up a flame out of the exhaust when advancing the throttle. Eventually GE fixed the problem but the cause was unburnt fuel being expelled out of the exhaust stroke and later ignited by the hot exhaust gases. As for older GE units I've seen some units belched out thick black smoke when advancing the throttle that would make you think it was a steam engine or a smoke screen generator.>I knew that if you jump from dynamic breaking to foward in an EMD that it would do this.TexasWestern70Mac I have no idea what you meant by that but if you mean changing from Dynamic Braking to Throttle mode then no kind of flame should shoot out of the exhaust because when you change modes you are only changing electrical modes (in laymans terms). PatchCrew
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You mean like this, Patch?
This is C40-8W 934, digging in on the Huey P. Long bridge in New Orleans. According to the engineer, C40s that have been souped up to 4135hp have a tendancy to do this, especially in notch 5.
From Mike Palmieri's Louisiana Rail Site, http://lrs.railspot.com/ . Photo by Steven Palmieri.

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Yep just like that!PatchCrew

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Like said before, ya just gotta yell "ALCO"!!! *~þHÃt*Rat~**~classic american playa~*


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I was up close and personal once when a NS dash 9 did that. Happened to be standing beside the tracks when I saw a load of sickly blue smoke come belching up the track. The engine in question was the number two unit and it was merrily coughing blue smoke out its stack. Well, as it drew closer, there was a very loud BOOM! followed by black smoke and a big flash of flame that blew two of the side doors open and sent a flame high enough to scorch the road overpass. The engine in question got deathly silent, though smoke kept billowing out of that thing, even after they shunted it on a siding to figure out what happened.I wish I had a camera with me back then, but I still laugh when I think of it. That nine died a very HARD death.

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WAY COOL, but dangerous. At least they wern't directley under trees!Zach, future railroad worker(I'm only ten)

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