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I also got a question about that train in the picture. Are the lines of windows up in that hub in the top of the loco for passengers?Adam-------------------------------Operation Lifesaver Organization -- http://www.oli.org/ Striving to save lives at railroad crossings I'm wishing all of you to have a safe and Happy Halloween
Actually, Kevin, that is the United Aircraft (Sikorsky) version of a Turbo Train. Glad that you survived the Hurricane in Louisiana, and hope that your power is back on by now. Dan
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel80.html Dunno what they are really, but all I know is I want one for christmas! (Heres some incentive for our..Canadian..modelers..It appears that our friends in CN have taken over VIA as well!) Interesting..I notice it has 3 headlights in a lopsided formation, and an emergency light..What's that all about?!
From the book, "Diesel Spotter's Guide Update" (1979):In 1967, two train sets were built by Pullman-Standard for United Aircraft for sale to the Department of Transportation (DOT). After tests, they began service on Penn Central's ex-New Haven line between New York and Boston in April 1969. After the creation of Amtrak, these trains continued in that service until retired in September 1975 because of poor mechanical reliability (60% availability). At the same time as the two DOT sets were built (road #'s 50-53), five sets (10 power units) were assembled in Canada by MLW for United Aircraft for delivery to Canadian National. The CN intended to use these trains to replace Montreal-Toronto Rapido service, but mechanical problems vexed these sets also. Not until 1973 was CN able to establish reliable service, using three of the original five pairs of power units. The other two pairs were sold to Amtrak, but one pair was destroyed in a collision before delivery could be accomplished. The surviving set sold to Amtrak was retired in 1975 along with the Pullman-built sets. The three CN pairs were conveyed to VIA Rail Canada. On the CN they were numbered 125/150, 126/151, and 129/154. The set destroyed was to have been Amtrak 54/55, and the set delivered to Amtrak became 56/57.Despite the difficult experience with the UA turbos, Amtrak was determined to experiment with two leased turbine-powered train sets produced by ANF-Frangeco of France (four power units, Amtrak 60/61 and 62/63). When these "Turboliners" proved moderately successful in service out of Chicago, four more train sets (eight power units) were ordered (Amtrak 58/59, 64/65, 66/67, and 68/69), bringing the total to six train sets. At the same time, to avoid being criticized for making non-American purchases, Amtrak arranged to purchase additional Turboliners to be built under license by Rohr Industries - seven sets (14 power units) numbered 150-163. Rohr went out of the rail car business after delivery of these trains, and both the Rohr and Frangeco trains experienced high operating costs compared to diesel-powered Amfleet trains.I rode in one of the UA turbos between Boston and New York, and did sit in the "dome", which was a lounge area, enjoying a snack and beverage, while overlooking the operator's position and controls. Unfortunately, I did not photograph that experience, believing that the train sets would be around for many years. My mistake. I did manage to photograph the Frangeco and Rohr models.Amtrak #60 (Frangeco), Chicago, September 1979 Amtrak #68 (Rohr), Chicago, June 1978
I really do love thos old days of Amtrak. yeah arn't atleast 2 ROHR Turbos have been reactivated and remodeled and go out of Penn Station and throughout New York?The arrow and bars shall return!Firm beleaver in Ceo David Gunn (Amtrak)
Watch out world we have a Texan in the White House, go W!
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Amtrak #68 (Rohr), Chicago, June 1978
The arrow and bars shall return!Firm beleaver in Ceo David Gunn (Amtrak)