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Hi all, Is there a standard by which different sized containers are stacked up onto each other when being loaded? I was under the impression that a smaller container would go on the bottom vs on the top. Example, you load a 40ft in first and then a 58ft on top of it, but not the other way around. The reason I ask is that this morning I caught up with a UP stack train about 7 miles east out of Las Vegas. About 50 cars long with four units at the head. All of the cars that I saw were either same size container in the car or larger container on top of smaller EXCEPT for three cars which had a 40ft on the top of larger container. Were these three just odd balls in the consist or does it make any difference?Any guesses?
Matt

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Hi,A very blind guess. Can it be that the bigger container doesn't fit in the car? Those container cars don't have a flat "bottom". What I mean the cars are sloped toward the ends.Dick van den HovenQuestion about stack train loadings – image 1

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Dick has got it right as far as I know. I spent the last couple months watching CN container trains whiz by Wainwright, Alberta, which doesn't make me an expert by any stretch of the imagination. However, from what I observed, it seems that it depends on the type of car the containers are in. Some of the cars could handle having a 53ft container in the bottom, while the shorter cars had a 48ft container underneath a 53ft container. I guess it depends on what types of cars are available at the intermodal facility. I never saw a train with just one type of car in it. Also I never saw a 48ft container on a 53ft.- Andrew

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Member since Jul-2-02 · 45 posts

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In the Double Stack trains Pacific National run between Perth and Adeladie on a Sunday Arvo - the 46ft + 48 foot are all placed at the bottom - if there are any larger - 53ft - they will be stacked ontop of a 48ft (depending on their weights) if not - its 48ft ontop of 48ft. Thats what happens downunder (australia) alot of the time.Cheers
MikePS: Anybody know when PN are going to start running Double Stacks from Perth to Melbourne?

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i work for csxi or csx intermodal it all depends on the size of the car which container goes in the bottom usually the 40 foot containers go in the bottom and then the bigger containers go on the top.
eddie,chicago

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Mike,We need 1 bridge built in Melbourne and an underpass enlarged.
Then we need approval.Then we are on our way.Derek

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I've also noticed that sometimes they have 2 20 footers than a 53 or 40 foot on top.------------------------------
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The question revolves around the size of the well in the car. Most container cars are 48'wells so a 53' would go on top. The railroads are now begining to use 53' wells to accomodate these larger boxes. The container ships carry either ISO 20' or ISO 40' containers while domestic containers range from 45' to 53' Wally

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