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Ferrari355 (288 posts)
Jun-23-01, 03:31 AM (EST) "Train toliet" Why is it that you are not to flush when the train is not moveing? Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Train toliet OwainGlyndwr Jun-23-01 1 RE: Train toliet scand Jul-30-01 22 RE: Train toliet rdamurphy Jun-24-01 2 RE: Train toliet OwainGlyndwr Jun-25-01 6 RE: Train toliet MrFuzzums Jun-24-01 3 RE: Train toliet Ferrari355 Jun-25-01 4 RE: Train toliet jhender501 Jun-25-01 5 RE: Train toliet bleuzzmann Jun-25-01 7 RE: Train toliet jhender501 Jun-25-01 8 RE: Train toliet byelen Jun-27-01 9 RE: Train toliet jhender501 Jun-27-01 10 RE: Train toliet Robwfoto Jun-27-01 11 RE: Train toliet ccyko Jul-27-01 12 RE: Train toliet Master Qui Gon Jul-28-01 13 RE: Train toliet sniper297 Jul-28-01 15 RE: Train toliet byelen Jul-31-01 23 RE: Train toliet ewsdriver Jul-28-01 14 RE: Train toliet Walt Jul-29-01 16 RE: Train toliet Ferrari355 Jul-30-01 17 RE: Train toliet Walt Jul-30-01 18 RE: Train toliet Mike Jul-30-01 19 RE: Train toliet Ferrari355 Jul-30-01 20 RE: Train toliet Ferrari355 Jul-30-01 21 RE: Train toliet zeeland174 Aug-02-01 24 RE: Train toliet Ferrari355 Aug-02-01 25 RE: Train toliet Walt Aug-02-01 26

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OwainGlyndwr (35 posts)
Jun-23-01, 06:37 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Train toliet" Because in the old days the crap went straight down onto the tracks. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
scand (43 posts)
Jul-30-01, 06:08 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Train toliet" Also the HOBOS were complaing when they jumped from the train and had to cross the tracks.
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rdamurphy (54 posts)
Jun-24-01, 04:06 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Train toliet" Uh, actually, on most Western Amtrak trains, it still does. It does on the equipment used for the Chicago-LA train. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
OwainGlyndwr (35 posts)
Jun-25-01, 03:18 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Train toliet" pretty difficult for me to use the toilet on amtrak,i`m 4000mls away.hahahahaha LOL Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
MrFuzzums (40 posts)
Jun-24-01, 11:37 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Train toliet" Mostly I think it's etiquette for when the train has made a station stop. They didn't want anyone standing on a platform to get a, um, nasty surprise......Mr. F Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Ferrari355 (288 posts)
Jun-25-01, 02:13 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Train toliet" don't they use holding tanks on the side now? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jhender501 (49 posts)
Jun-25-01, 12:58 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Train toliet"
I believe the line "the passengers will please refrain" in
Steve Goodman's "City of New Orleans" comes from a song back
in the heyday of train travel, one of the lines of which
had to do with refraining to pull the chain while the train
was in the station.
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bleuzzmann (194 posts)
Jun-25-01, 04:05 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Train toliet" >
>I believe the line "the passengers
>will please refrain" in
>Steve Goodman's "City of New Orleans"
>comes from a song back
>
>in the heyday of train travel,
>one of the lines of
>which
>had to do with refraining to
>pull the chain while the
>train
>was in the station.
>
>
>Jim
I like Arlo Guthrie's singing that one....but Goodman wrote it as:
The conductor sings his song again,
The passengers will please refrain
This train's got the disappearing railroad blues.....sounds like the conductor is singing his song.."all aboard"
and yes, passengers will please refrain....as the train leaves the station. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jhender501 (49 posts)
Jun-25-01, 04:45 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Train toliet"
Yes, Arlo did a wonderful job on that..one of my favorite songs
to play on guitar..And it took on a new meaning, or at least I learned to appreciate
it more when I heard it a short time after detraining from
the then "San Francisco Zephyr" after a trip from Oakland to
Denver...<sigh>
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byelen (34 posts)
Jun-27-01, 02:01 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Train toliet" Yes, they do have holding tanks, however, the waste is supposed to be macerated (ground up) and chlorinated. When the car reaches a certain speed, the tank opens up and dumps the treated (somewhat!) waste out. It doesn't always work the way it's supposed to.A relevant piece of trivia - when the Amfleet equipment first came out on the east coast, almost all railroaders referred to them as "Amcans". They were not among the finest examples of the Budd Company. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jhender501 (49 posts)
Jun-27-01, 04:48 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Train toliet"
I was on the Lake Shore Limited several years ago, enroute from
Chicago-Boston..at the time it was using Heritage Sleeper cars.
There was a rather horrendous winter storm going on between Cleveland and somewhere in upstate NY..all of the "facilities"
on the Amfleet cars froze, and the only option was to use the
facility on the only room on the heritage sleepers not in use..
Actually, it was a power problem, now that I think about it,
which caused the freezing..but, it made for a not very fun
loooooooooong trip across upstate NY.
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Robwfoto (13 posts)
Jun-27-01, 06:12 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Train toliet" Over here in Holland it still gets dumped on the track. You should come and see what grows between the tracks with this manure !
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ccyko (144 posts)
Jul-27-01, 12:23 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Train toliet" NO ONE MENTIONED THE HONEYBUCKETS!!! On business cars which would sit it the stations occupied, they would place metal buckets underneath the cars which would be collected before the car left the station. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Master Qui Gon (108 posts)
Jul-28-01, 01:24 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Train toliet" Wow, I didn't know some passenger service trains still dumped waste on the tracks. On modern diesels, we have various types of toilets, but all hold the waste until the engine reaches a service facility. If it does not require serious maintenance, it's fueled, sanded and toilet is changed out.
At least that's my experience with CSX. We're told that Norfolk Southern crews carry waste bags that fit in a toilet shaped stand, and they have to take it with them and dispose of it themselves. There would be some union reps swinging from the trees if they agreed to such a thing on our rails. That's just barbaric. And I'm not the sensitive type either.Master Qui-Gon Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
sniper297 (90 posts)
Jul-28-01, 10:53 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Train toliet" Is it OK to use the toilet in the station in Flushing, New York? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
byelen (34 posts)
Jul-31-01, 09:58 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Train toliet" I forgot about the joys of "honeybuckets". Of course, the old business car track at Sacremento station went one better. They built a concrete trough between the rails that acted as an open sewer to flush the waste into the drain. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ewsdriver (2 posts)
Jul-28-01, 06:18 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Train toliet" >Why is it that you are
>not to flush when the
>train is not moveing?
Toilets do not work afterwards if train not moving....Gravity fed...needs movement to move water from tanks to toilet Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Walt (91 posts)
Jul-29-01, 04:00 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Train toliet" As a boy in the 1940s I frequently rode the PRR "Clockers" between Philadelphia and New York City. These were invariably made up of P-70 (non-streamlined) coaches. I used to love to stand in the toilet and watch the tracks fly by underneath. The toilet was nothing more than a hole in the floor with a box and seat built over it. Essentially a rolling outhouse. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Ferrari355 (288 posts)
Jul-30-01, 01:06 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Train toliet" lol you would stand in the toilet?
>As a boy in the 1940s
>I frequently rode the PRR
>"Clockers" between Philadelphia and New
>York City. These were
>invariably made up of P-70
>(non-streamlined) coaches. I used
>to love to stand in
>the toilet and watch the
>tracks fly by underneath.
>The toilet was nothing more
>than a hole in the
>floor with a box and
>seat built over it.
>Essentially a rolling outhouse.
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Walt (91 posts)
Jul-30-01, 03:40 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Train toliet" I guess I should have been more specific. I stood IN FRONT of the toilet looking down through the hole. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mike (6 posts)
Jul-30-01, 03:48 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Train toliet" I think it goes something like this....Passengers must please refrain
From passing water while the train
Is standing at the station
For a while...I don't know that it had anything to do with Arlo Guthrie as it is one that we sang at school and goes on a bit edging into the bawdy...) I can't remember it all now, but some the lines come to mind...Whose the man who did the `pushin',
Left the teethmarks on the cushion,
And his footprints on the dashboard upside down...Maybe that's just the Aussie version. (Apologies Nels, but I've kept it clean).Mike Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Ferrari355 (288 posts)
Jul-30-01, 03:53 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Train toliet" So thats why the grass is allways growing in btween the tracks.... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Ferrari355 (288 posts)
Jul-30-01, 04:50 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Train toliet" Well my last time beeing on Amtrack was like 10 years ago and no i'm not a old fart... lol i'am 16 years old but anyway. I remember the little sign over the flush button it said.. "Do Not Flush When Train Is Not In Motion" That I can remember cleary I allways wanted to know why I could not flush it when the train was not moveing. Allthough I followed the rules. Thats why I asked this question. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
zeeland174 (7 posts)
Aug-02-01, 03:21 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Train toliet" it's because that probably means that the train is in a station. and waiting for the trains in the smell of a big dump isn't verry nice Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Ferrari355 (288 posts)
Aug-02-01, 05:21 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Train toliet" HAhahahahah!!! A rideing outhouse! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Walt (91 posts)
Aug-02-01, 07:51 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Train toliet" That looks like an updated version of the Humphreymobile. Now let's have a show of hands to see how many people know what I am talking about. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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