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Heh. Murphy (of murphy's law fame) who had decided to hide from me while I worked on my railroad, has decided to pop in on me and make me make up for lost problems.To be exact, the whole route, save for one light pole and two sound regions, has completely dissappeared. I have a feeling that it's his way of saying. "Start over, do it better this time."Well, I'm going to do just that. No more banging it together in two days

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You GOTTA be KIDDING me! [View All], sn00py, 07:34 PM, Sep-30-02, (0) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, mivone, Sep-30-02, 08:19 PM, (1) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, Transcon, Sep-30-02, 08:35 PM, (2) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, calr, Sep-30-02, 09:59 PM, (3) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, sn00py, Sep-30-02, 10:15 PM, (4) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, calr, Oct-01-02, 05:02 PM, (8) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, enocell, Oct-02-02, 02:15 PM, (11) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, calr, Oct-02-02, 02:35 PM, (12) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, enocell, Oct-03-02, 01:52 PM, (14) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, Vince, Sep-30-02, 11:15 PM, (5) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, Transcon, Sep-30-02, 11:28 PM, (6) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, Vince, Oct-01-02, 04:53 PM, (7) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, sn00py, Oct-01-02, 07:48 PM, (9) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, calr, Oct-02-02, 11:07 AM, (10) RE: You GOTTA be KIDDING me!, sn00py, Oct-02-02, 07:31 PM, (13)

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RE indeed does not like banging!And: Save, SAVE, backup, BACK UP!Michael Vone
Step by Step Guide to Route Building for MSTS - http://trainsimulatorworld.com/catalog/b470.htm
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RE can be horribly ruthless!*I sincerely hope my copy of RE didn't hear that!* ------------------------------------------------------------I'll never let go of the railroad that inspired me to be involved with trains, the Union Pacific!John Ekhoff
14 yr. old Train Sim Reskinner from Abilene, Texas.A member of the Yonder Locomotive Works.

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Obviously, you didn't follow the cardinal rules of route building:
1. Backup
2. Backup
3. Backup
4. Backup
5. See rule #1
Cal Rasmussen
Beaverton, ORColumbia Gorge Route -- 20%

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Heh, you wanna know what I was thinking?The route is only one tile, and barely a mile long. What's the worst that could happen?And I did back up...but it ate that too.

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I know of no way the RE can destroy your backup file. How did you do the backup and what did you backup?Cal Rasmussen
Beaverton, ORColumbia Gorge Route (The Dalles Yard 75%)

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It *CAN* destroy old backups! I had some backups on HD which was not powered, and not even connected to the computer, but RE still managed to corrupt those...
Now I have 98 backup files(and some of the contain multiple copies of the critical files). And there's problems which are in areas edited over 4 months ago!
I tried to fix those, but it was to frustrating for me and because the route will not be MSTS 2.0 compatible(most likely, if M$ is making it instead of Kuju). I had to delete lots of track and the vector_#%¤&_thingy came back after I placed a couple of track pieces again.
http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID6/6625.html

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What's wrong with this picture? I find it very hard to believe that any program can do anything to a hard drive that is physically disconnected from the computer. It would somehow need to generate an extremely strong magnetic field to do so. A magnetic field that strong would probably destroy anything magnetic within about ten feet, including the operating drive. No, I still don't think this is possible.Cal Rasmussen
Beaverton, ORColumbia Gorge Route (The Dalles Yard 90%)

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I think that was caused by RE's ability to make hidden bugs which will be noticed much later(usually when it's too late)

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Were you installing track and road objects before ALL track and roads were completed? If you were, that is an invitation to disaster. Track objects are: speed limits, signals, animated crossing gates/lights, mileposts and sound regions. Road objects are car spawners.Mix track installation with the above mentioned objects and it will kill the route, corrupting the world file.
You may be able to recover by deleting all the your_route.bk files in the route, deleting the *.rdb and *.tdb files and then running the rebuild track database function in the route editor.

Regards,
Vince Cockeram
NEC Track Team
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-30-02 AT 11:29 PM (EDT)

Umm well I've five tiles so far on my route... I got crossing signals and car spawners galore... I have no problems except that I can't get any sound from the crossings....------------------------------------------------------------I'll never let go of the railroad that inspired me to be involved with trains, the Union Pacific!John Ekhoff
14 yr. old Train Sim Reskinner from Abilene, Texas.A member of the Yonder Locomotive Works.

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John, if you are modifing track / roads you are headed for the ditch.
It WILL jump up and bite you big time. I have been editing and building routes since the sim came out and I know. Be careful!

Regards,
Vince Cockeram
NEC Track Team
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I know what got me. Took a while to track (no pun) things down.Turns out that the one stinkin lamp post i'd dropped on the route (to test something) Couldn't be deleted. By deleting it...I screwed up the railroad No biggie. I've begun rebuilding.

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See posts #3 and #8 above.Cal Rasmussen
Beaverton, ORColumbia Gorge Route (The Dalles Yard 75%)

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workin on it

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