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Crash (129 posts)
Jul-02-01, 03:26 PM (EDT) "How do you lay track on an incline grade?" Ok, I've tried laying track but all I can get it to do is be level. How on earth do I get it to go on an incline? Do I need to lay the track first or do the terrain? Please be detailed. Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: How do you lay track on an incl... wildh0rse Jul-02-01 1 RE: How do you lay track on an incl... Southpaw_Samurai Jul-03-01 2 RE: How do you lay track on an incl... mtkh06 Jul-03-01 3 RE: How do you lay track on an incl... woodman Jul-03-01 4 RE: How do you lay track on an incl... Vern Jul-03-01 5
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wildh0rse (184 posts)
Jul-02-01, 05:28 PM (EDT) 1. "RE: How do you lay track on an incline grade?" Hope this helps -Select your track section and rotate it by using the KEYS not the mouse. Big difference - when you've got the end of track where you want it, press Y to alter the terrain.No matter what you do first youll end up adjusting. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Southpaw_Samurai (26 posts)
Jul-03-01, 08:55 AM (EDT) 2. "RE: How do you lay track on an incline grade?" I have found picturing what I want out of the terrain, but laying the tracks first is the much better way to go. It makes it easier to yank the terrain up to the level of your tracks than trying to get the tracks to match the terrain and it allows you to judge the track grade before committing. I will do terrain before tracks when I want it to run through a shallow valley between two high pieces of land, though...mainly because its easier to let the computer carve out the valley than do it yourself. Whenever possible, use the 'Y' key, then tweak...so much easier than manually modifying terrain from scratch.Just place a track piece, choose the rotation option and use the 8 & 2 keys on the keypad to move the unattached end up or down. You can also change the altitude with the same keys under the move option. Once you're happy with the track's position, hit 'y' and the terrain will come up or move away to greet your track. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
mtkh06 (18 posts)
Jul-03-01, 09:14 AM (EDT) 3. "RE: How do you lay track on an incline grade?" I must add, after having 3 previous territories crash completely,
BE CAREFUL. When you lay the track... Here is what I do.
Go in and adjust the terrian, make the hills and you want them, lay the entire hill out first, take your track up to the edge of the hill, then build the hill up. Once you have it the way you want, then go back and remove a few sections of rail, then insert smaller sections of rail 50m is good. Then you can simply attach the rail, once you have done this, go to the "atomic" looking symbol, and then either pull up or down with it, this will make the track either raise its level or sink below the hill "terrain". Then once you have the piece of track laid out, (still in the wire frame mode) hit the "Y" key and you will see the terrain either raise or lower to conform to the bottom of the rails.! Works fine that way. I am sure everyone has their own way of doing it. This just works best for me.
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woodman (148 posts)
Jul-03-01, 10:42 AM (EDT) 4. "RE: How do you lay track on an incline grade?" How do you avoid the very sharp elevation transitions that are found on Marias?Mike Woodill
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Vern (107 posts)
Jul-03-01, 01:57 PM (EDT) 5. "RE: How do you lay track on an incline grade?" Not a direct answer to Mike's question but you really need to follow a gradient profile as closely as possible. Be aware the 3 degree maximum angle for a gradient is far steeper than most real rail routes have - something like 1 in 18 or steeper than 5%. Remember, MS gradient angles are shown as the inverse tangent of 1 divided by whatever the gradient value is. A 1 in 50 gradient works out at 0.02 of which the inverse tangent is 1.145. As the angles can only be increased in 0.150 sections of a degree you need to use the closest possible angle. MS were supposed to be including a gradient converter, but this does not appear to be present.ISTR answering this same question a few weeks ago - probably a good point for a route builder's FAQ. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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