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wp713 (356 posts)
Jan-13-02, 08:32 AM (EST) "California Routes??" I was just wondering if anyone besides Nalle is doing a route based on a California location? I sent away for the Tehachapi route, and I think Hobart is doing a C.A. route as well. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanx
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: California Routes?? Hobart Jan-13-02 1 RE: California Routes?? Ryder276 Jan-13-02 2 RE: California Routes?? NickF Jan-13-02 3 RE: California Routes?? SD80MAC Jan-13-02 4 RE: California Routes?? SD40T_2 Jan-13-02 5 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Jan-13-02 7 RE: California Routes?? Daylighter Feb-06-02 18 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Feb-07-02 20 RE: California Routes?? Daylighter Feb-07-02 23 RE: California Routes?? / Cajon Pas... McCloud_River_John Feb-07-02 19 RE: California Routes?? / Cajon Pas... Hobart Feb-07-02 21 RE: California Routes?? / Cajon Pas... McCloud_River_John Feb-07-02 22 RE: California Routes?? Motley24Crue2 Jan-13-02 6 RE: California Routes?? SD40T_2 Jan-13-02 8 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Jan-13-02 9 RE: California Routes?? Nalle13 Jan-13-02 10 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Jan-13-02 11 RE: California Routes?? Nalle13 Jan-14-02 12 RE: California Routes?? SD40T_2 Jan-14-02 13 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Jan-14-02 14 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Jan-14-02 15 RE: California Routes?? SD40T_2 Jan-15-02 16 RE: California Routes?? Eagleknight Feb-06-02 17 RE: California Routes?? crow357 Feb-07-02 24 RE: California Routes?? ATSF Feb-09-02 27 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Feb-09-02 28 RE: California Routes?? ATSF Feb-09-02 29 RE: California Routes?? Hobart Feb-09-02 30 RE: California Routes?? OkrasaGhia Feb-07-02 25 RE: California Routes?? jtsdadinaz Feb-08-02 26

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Hobart (205 posts)
Jan-13-02, 11:47 AM (EST) 1. "RE: California Routes??" Hey WP713,
My route is the old ATSF from LA to Barstow and is about half way complete.
Leaving San Bernardino CA. Notch 8 all the way to summit.

Passing Devore CA. Best Regards
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Ryder276 (79 posts)
Jan-13-02, 11:59 AM (EST) 2. "RE: California Routes??" Very Nice!,i like that Devore shot with I-15 in the background.
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NickF (764 posts)
Jan-13-02, 12:19 PM (EST) 3. "RE: California Routes??" Impressive work with the overpasses. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SD80MAC (771 posts)
Jan-13-02, 01:49 PM (EST) 4. "RE: California Routes??" Hobart!Lookin good Buddy!Please by all means keep us posted!!!The ATSF is my favorite!(I live in Michigan...go figure?)Love the over passes.Are you including a Intermodel yard?Please show some more pics...please? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SD40T_2 (233 posts)
Jan-13-02, 04:23 PM (EST) 5. "RE: California Routes??" is this part of the 3dtrain stuff's Cajon pass or is it a indie product? if it's indie, how much will it be (if your charging). BTW looks good. could you post some pics of Blue cut? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hobart (205 posts)
Jan-13-02, 05:56 PM (EST) 7. "RE: California Routes??" Hobart Yard has a small intermodal yard, I just got the crane for it yesterday so it'll be awhile before I can get to that area. No this isn't related to any 3rd party. Its my fiasco from start to finish, and will be free of charge.

Thanks for the encouragement.Best Regards
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Daylighter (152 posts)
Feb-06-02, 10:50 PM (EST) 18. "RE: California Routes??" I'm working on the SP Coast Route between SF and LA.Here is a shot of the horseshoe curve below the Santa Margarita's.
Hey Hobart, I sure could use your Cantelevered Signal Bridge if you plan to upload it. Those were all along the Coast Route!
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Hobart (205 posts)
Feb-07-02, 00:33 AM (EST) 20. "RE: California Routes??" Hey Daylighter,
I was going to upload it, but was holding out for some decent info on how to zip the ace file. Currently it's 1.5 megs, but today I downloaded the new TGAtool and it zipped down to about 650k not quite the 171k Kuju used on theirs. I'll put up the palm tree and signal bridge later this week.My reskins of Kevin Shea's FP45 at the natural crossover.
Best Regards
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Daylighter (152 posts)
Feb-07-02, 01:05 AM (EST) 23. "RE: California Routes??" > I'll put up the
>palm tree and signal bridge
>later this week.
>Best Regards
> Hobart
Man that's excellent. Thanks a million!Daylighter
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McCloud_River_John (167 posts)
Feb-07-02, 00:11 AM (EST) 19. "RE: California Routes?? / Cajon Pass - Summit" I hope you somehow forget the prison fence at Summit. To this day I have issues with the fence, the lights, and the security guards.At night I can see those god aweful lights from the backside of Arrowhead!
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Hobart (205 posts)
Feb-07-02, 00:36 AM (EST) 21. "RE: California Routes?? / Cajon Pass - Summit" LAST EDITED ON Feb-07-02 AT 00:37 AM (EST)Hey MCRJ,
NO FENCE, NO GESTAPO! I can't stand what they've done to summit either.Best Regards
Hobart
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McCloud_River_John (167 posts)
Feb-07-02, 00:56 AM (EST) 22. "RE: California Routes?? / Cajon Pass - Summit" Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Motley24Crue2 (362 posts)
Jan-13-02, 05:07 PM (EST) 6. "RE: California Routes??" im an East Coast kind of guy, but from the looks of it you have a nice route in the makings ... something I'd like to try out my selfBob... Philly, Pa Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SD40T_2 (233 posts)
Jan-13-02, 06:18 PM (EST) 8. "RE: California Routes??" Hobart, for the lack of a better word you are a GOD!! i love Cajon Pass!! thank you so much for making it free. Can i beta test it? it looks real good espically Devore. can't wait to see those updates! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hobart (205 posts)
Jan-13-02, 07:47 PM (EST) 9. "RE: California Routes??" Hey SD40T-2,
I think you misspelled dog there chief You can beta test this one if you want to but it's going to be a while. I've got lots of blank terrain tiles staring at me. Here's Blue Cut so far. and the high desert north of Hodge.

Best Regards
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Nalle13 (205 posts)
Jan-13-02, 08:49 PM (EST) 10. "RE: California Routes??" Looking good there! Just keep at it. You'll probably think it'll never be finished (at least I have ).
Q: Is that cantilever signal bridge from the last version of the searchlight signal package?
I don't know if WP used them but I'd like to use them anyway! Gotta be able to use some artistic license, right? Nalle Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hobart (205 posts)
Jan-13-02, 09:55 PM (EST) 11. "RE: California Routes??" Hey Nalle13,
The cantilever was created with TSM. I'll upload it soon. How far are you along with the Feather River route?
Best Regards
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Nalle13 (205 posts)
Jan-14-02, 02:02 AM (EST) 12. "RE: California Routes??" Excellent! Looking forward to it.
I'm about 99% done with tracklaying. I'm finishing up at Portola (the "shop" area where the museum is now) and then I have some industrial trackage at Oroville left to do...
Then I'd like to signal the whole route and build some bridges and trackside structures before release, So it'll still be a while. Good thing one doesn't realize how much work it is when you start!!!! Nalle Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SD40T_2 (233 posts)
Jan-14-02, 10:50 AM (EST) 13. "RE: California Routes??" hey Hobart what are you going to do after Cajon? may i suggest a project? how about Beaumont hill, the line from City of Industry to Palm Springs. well lemmie know if your up to it. go great with the colton cross-over Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hobart (205 posts)
Jan-14-02, 09:07 PM (EST) 14. "RE: California Routes??" Hey SD40T-2,
I've considered Banning Pass too. From this vantage point it looks just as steep as Cajon. You wouldn't happen to know where I can get my grubby mitts on some tunnel motors do you?

Best Regards
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Hobart (205 posts)
Jan-14-02, 09:13 PM (EST) 15. "RE: California Routes??" LAST EDITED ON Jan-14-02 AT 09:14 PM (EST)>Good thing one
>doesn't realize how much work
>it is when you start!!!! Nalle you sure got that right! It's been fun though except for the periodic meltdowns.

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SD40T_2 (233 posts)
Jan-15-02, 12:55 PM (EST) 16. "RE: California Routes??" tunnel motors? yeah a SD45T_2, at http://www.dekosoft.com Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Eagleknight (66 posts)
Feb-06-02, 08:30 PM (EST) 17. "RE: California Routes??" is this route coming along ? took me forever to find this post again hehe Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
crow357 (128 posts)
Feb-07-02, 07:38 AM (EST) 24. "RE: California Routes??" I'm working on the ATSF from Barstow, CA to Gallup, NM. I've got track laid from Barstow to about 15 miles west of Kingman, AZ. It's going to take forever tho. I only get to work on it about an hour per evening. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ATSF (117 posts)
Feb-09-02, 04:23 AM (EST) 27. "RE: California Routes??" I have the ATSF route from Trinidad CO over Raton Pass to French NM including the branch line up to the coal mine at York Canyon in the works. I have all the trackwork done. I used ATSF 1988 track charts to get the grades and curves as accurate as possible. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hobart (205 posts)
Feb-09-02, 11:28 AM (EST) 28. "RE: California Routes??" Hey ATSF,
Do you know where I can get ATSF track charts for cajon pass?
(circa 1988 would be perfect) Best Regards
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ATSF (117 posts)
Feb-09-02, 02:15 PM (EST) 29. "RE: California Routes??" TryATSFRY.com - they have track charts from several time periods.
In 1988-89 Cajon was on the Cajon Subdivision (San Bernardino to Needles) of the California Division Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Hobart (205 posts)
Feb-09-02, 02:54 PM (EST) 30. "RE: California Routes??" Hey ATSF,
Thanks. I just did.Best Regards
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OkrasaGhia (239 posts)
Feb-07-02, 08:05 AM (EST) 25. "RE: California Routes??" Does Gorre & Daphetid count?
Still a long way to go, especially after XTracks got me diverted.

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jtsdadinaz (61 posts)
Feb-08-02, 06:14 PM (EST) 26. "RE: California Routes??" I am working out the NorthWestern Pacific & California Western, runs from just north of San Francisco to Eureka up the Eel River..Willits to Ft. Bragg.. Finding it near impossible to get the terrain looking remotely close tho. Seems the area around Ignacio, which is barely above sea level ether has a big ditch with 30M Dem or a shallow ditch with 10M.. The track can be fairly close, but the Eel and Russian Rivers are a lot more than a mild trench or depression..as is what I get now..Wont have to worry about signaling if I have find a compromise on the terrain as this line does not use any, all timetable and manual signalling.. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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