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adamw (49 posts)
Nov-29-01, 10:34 AM (EST) "ModernEngland 3 - Problems" Hi,
I've upgraded to Modernengland 3, but unable to run it because the following error:
1) No extended shape data for UKSemLQDist.s
2) Failed to open shapefile routes\Modernengland\Shapes\UKSemLQHome.sI don't know if this is the last error, or maybe there are additional.
How to correct it.Thanks.Adam Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
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Subject Author Message Date ID RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems liberal Nov-29-01 1 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems MPEtherington Dec-01-01 13 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Dec-02-01 14 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems MPEtherington Dec-02-01 15 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Nov-29-01 2 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems downside Nov-29-01 3 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Nov-29-01 5 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Nov-29-01 4 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems liberal Nov-29-01 6 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems adamw Nov-29-01 7 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Nov-30-01 8 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems johnyelland Nov-30-01 9 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Dec-01-01 11 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems driver89 Nov-30-01 10 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Dec-01-01 12 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems mpeplow Jan-08-02 16 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems downside Jan-08-02 17 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems driver89 Jan-08-02 18 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Jan-08-02 19 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems downside Jan-08-02 20 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Jan-09-02 21 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Jan-09-02 22 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems downside Jan-09-02 23 RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems hanstatdg Jan-09-02 24

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liberal (53 posts)
Nov-29-01, 10:48 AM (EST) 1. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" Have you downloaded the patch James has put on an earlier post. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
MPEtherington (2 posts)
Dec-01-01, 01:19 PM (EST) 13. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" Hello
Can anyone help? I downloaded Modern England 2 and it worked fine until I downloaded and installed V3. Now every time I try to use Mod Eng. I keep getting error messages about missing .s &.ace files. Well I suppose it makes a change from the usual; "Due to a points failure at ..."
Good route though, i'n'it?
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hanstatdg (19 posts)
Dec-02-01, 05:28 AM (EST) 14. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >Hello
>Can anyone help? I downloaded Modern
>England 2 and it worked
>fine until I downloaded and
>installed V3. Now every time
>I try to use Mod
>Eng. I keep getting error
>messages about missing .s &.ace
>files. Well I suppose it
>makes a change from the
>usual; "Due to a points
>failure at ..."
> Good route though, i'n'it?
>Paul A few of us have had the same problem. We don't know why. For some reason a few files from the 'Shapes' folder went missing.The easiest way to solve it is to temporarily reinstall V2 into a temporary folder outside TrainSim. Goto the Shapes folder there and copy the 36 files UKSemLQxxxx.s and .sd to your Trainsim\Routes\Modern England\Shapes folder. That should do it.If you have previously unpacked the V2 activities you will have to do some work in the Activities Route Editor. We can help if you have a problem.Regards,David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
MPEtherington (2 posts)
Dec-02-01, 10:25 AM (EST) 15. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" Thanks for taking the trouble to reply David. I'll try what you suggest tonight. Will let you know how I get on. Thanks again,
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hanstatdg (19 posts)
Nov-29-01, 11:35 AM (EST) 2. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >Hi,
>I've upgraded to Modernengland 3, but
>unable to run it because
>the following error:
>1) No extended shape data for
>UKSemLQDist.s
>2) Failed to open shapefile routes\Modernengland\Shapes\UKSemLQHome.s
>
>
>I don't know if this is
>the last error, or maybe
>there are additional.
>How to correct it.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Adam I've got the identical problem. I've sent an e-mail to James Hunt and await his reply.David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
downside (477 posts)
Nov-29-01, 11:55 AM (EST) 3. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" Interesting that - I have both the files on my system and assume they were in version 2. As I understand it from the readme (I have only downloaded it today) this is an add-on rather than a replacement and Version 2 must be installed already.Anyway to the two guys above with difficulties - you have mail.Bill Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
hanstatdg (19 posts)
Nov-29-01, 04:37 PM (EST) 5. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >Interesting that - I have both
>the files on my system
>and assume they were in
>version 2. As I understand
>it from the readme (I
>have only downloaded it today)
>this is an add-on rather
>than a replacement and Version
>2 must be installed already.
>
>
>Anyway to the two guys above
>with difficulties - you have
>mail.
>
>Bill I also have V2 installed, so I'm puzzled how it is that you had the missing files and I didn't. Anyway, it's solved now, thanks to you and James.Regards,David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
hanstatdg (19 posts)
Nov-29-01, 04:33 PM (EST) 4. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >Hi,
>I've upgraded to Modernengland 3, but
>unable to run it because
>the following error:
>1) No extended shape data for
>UKSemLQDist.s
>2) Failed to open shapefile routes\Modernengland\Shapes\UKSemLQHome.s
>
>
>I don't know if this is
>the last error, or maybe
>there are additional.
>How to correct it.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Adam I found three missing files,
UKSemLQHome.s
UKSemLQHomeDist.s
UKSemLQDist.sJames Hunt sent me a zip file with 36 files, ie 18 .s files and the companion .sd files. After installing them I've had no further problems. I suspect that only the above three files are actually needed.James can't understand why I needed these files, as he thought they relevant ones were included in the earlier moderneng v2, which I had anyway.Regards,David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
liberal (53 posts)
Nov-29-01, 06:01 PM (EST) 6. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" I have seen a similar problem initially, it asked some sheep file, but the next time i loaded after restarting my comp, it worked fine.WHY THIS HAPPENED IS A MYSTERY TO ME! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
adamw (49 posts)
Nov-29-01, 11:04 PM (EST) 7. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" OK,
James sent me the whole package which I copied into shapes folder.
Many thanks to everyone here for the kind input.Adam Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
hanstatdg (19 posts)
Nov-30-01, 04:49 AM (EST) 8. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" I installed V2 on my laptop, and found that I had all the missing files. So why they wweren't on my main computer I don't know. All I can think of is that at some time I had reinstalled V1.1 and then installed V3 on top.Just for the exercise I deleted the whole route, reinstalled V2, then V3, and unpacked the Morningrun Activity. I got all sorts of activity error messages, which I expected. I tried editing the activity, rerouting the path, still got errors, removed the traffic, no better. Then I realised it was the static consists which were off the line. I removed them, and all is fine. But I will now have to rebuild the activity.When I started the edit, I kept getting messages asking if I wanted to overwrite. I did, but perhaps I shouldn't have done. Maybe I'll have another go, without overwriting this time, and see what happens.I still think James has done a superb job. It's a fine route, and I'm learning a lot about TrainSim <S>David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
johnyelland (1 posts)
Nov-30-01, 11:53 AM (EST) 9. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" Installed version 3 over version 2 as directed in the readme file. Fired up MSTS, selected Moderneng, and then Route Exploration, everything was fine. Attempted to fire up each of the three activities in turn and each time MSTS aborted with a send to MS dialogue. Fired up the Activity Editor and got all sorts of messages from wrong platforms to cars being too far from the track. Tried reloading the activities only to be informed that "Installed track database for this route is version 111. Activity was built on version 137". Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
hanstatdg (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 12:56 PM (EST) 11. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >Installed version 3 over version 2
>as directed in the readme
>file. Fired up MSTS, selected
>Moderneng, and then Route Exploration,
>everything was fine. Attempted to
>fire up each of the
>three activities in turn and
>each time MSTS aborted with
>a send to MS dialogue.
>Fired up the Activity Editor
>and got all sorts of
>messages from wrong platforms to
>cars being too far from
>the track. Tried reloading the
>activities only to be informed
>that "Installed track database for
>this route is version 111.
>Activity was built on version
>137". No problem. Just let it go and resave the activity. I've only done this with 'morningrun', but the others should be similar. In morningrun the main problem seems to be the static consists, which are off the track in V3. All you need to do is to put them on the nearest black track and resave. You might also have to adjust the player path start and finish points very slightly. I've done it, and all's well.Regards,David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
driver89 (435 posts)
Nov-30-01, 02:31 PM (EST) 10. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >I installed V2 on my laptop,
>and found that I had
>all the missing files. So
>why they wweren't on my
>main computer I don't know.
>All I can think of
>is that at some time
>I had reinstalled V1.1 and
>then installed V3 on top.
>
>
>Just for the exercise I deleted
>the whole route, reinstalled V2,
>then V3, and unpacked the
>Morningrun Activity. I got all
>sorts of activity error messages,
>which I expected. I tried
>editing the activity, rerouting the
>path, still got errors, removed
>the traffic, no better. Then
>I realised it was the
>static consists which were off
>the line. I removed them,
>and all is fine. But
>I will now have to
>rebuild the activity.
>
>When I started the edit, I
>kept getting messages asking if
>I wanted to overwrite. I
>did, but perhaps I shouldn't
>have done. Maybe I'll have
>another go, without overwriting this
>time, and see what happens.
>
>
>I still think James has done a superb job. It's a fine route, and I'm learning a lot about TrainSim <S>
>
>David That would make sense, as the Semaphore signals weren't included with version 1 but were with version 2, and that's why the error message appeared. Now that makes sense.
As for the activities, unfortunaley there is not much I can do for them, as I had to re-build part of the map (London) and of course this caused the error messages in the activities. When I do version 4, (as explained in the readme) I'm going to leave the track that's laid now as is, and it won't get moved. This should mean that any activities build for version 3 onwards will stay intact even after the next upgrade.James.
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hanstatdg (19 posts)
Dec-01-01, 01:09 PM (EST) 12. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >>That would make sense, as the Semaphore signals weren't included with version 1 but were with version 2, and that's why the error message appeared. Now that makes sense.<<It does now, thanks.Thinking back, I'm now 99% certain that I must have inadvertantly tried to install V3 over V1.1. Maybe Adam did the same.There is probably quite a lot of work adjusting the V2 adventures for V3. It took me some time to work out the solutions just for 'morninrun', and the other two might be more complex. But I'm learning all the time.I'm looking forward to V4.There are now several authors working on UK routes. NW Trains have a good one, which looks as if it might come close to yours sometime.Regards,David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
mpeplow (3 posts)
Jan-08-02, 11:45 AM (EST) 16. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >>>That would make sense, as the Semaphore signals weren't included with version 1 but were with version 2, and that's why the error message appeared. Now that makes sense.<<
>
>It does now, thanks.
>
>Thinking back, I'm now 99% certain
>that I must have inadvertantly
>tried to install V3 over
>V1.1. Maybe Adam did the
>same.
>
>There is probably quite a lot
>of work adjusting the V2
>adventures for V3. It took
>me some time to work
>out the solutions just for
>'morninrun', and the other two
>might be more complex. But
>I'm learning all the time.
>
>
>I'm looking forward to V4.
>
>There are now several authors working
>on UK routes. NW Trains
>have a good one, which
>looks as if it might
>come close to yours sometime.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>David
How can you tell the difference between v1.1 and v2? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
downside (477 posts)
Jan-08-02, 01:14 PM (EST) 17. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" If you haven't downloaded them then version 1 is no longer in the downloads.If you have then look open the file id.diz in the zip file and it shows the version.Bill
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driver89 (435 posts)
Jan-08-02, 01:25 PM (EST) 18. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" If you look at this thread;
http://www.train-sim.com/cgi/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4200&forum=DCForumID3&omm=0And the missing shapes for the semaphore signals are in this post;
http://www.train-sim.com/dcforum/DCForumID3/5241.htmlIt contains a lot of what people are looking for in terms of info and missing shapes. It seems ot have got burried at the bottom of the pile of posts.James.
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hanstatdg (19 posts)
Jan-08-02, 04:09 PM (EST) 19. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >>>>That would make sense, as the Semaphore signals weren't included with version 1 but were with version 2, and that's why the error message appeared. Now that makes sense.<<
>>
>>It does now, thanks.
>>
>>Thinking back, I'm now 99% certain
>>that I must have inadvertantly
>>tried to install V3 over
>>V1.1. Maybe Adam did the
>>same.
>>
>>There is probably quite a lot
>>of work adjusting the V2
>>adventures for V3. It took
>>me some time to work
>>out the solutions just for
>>'morninrun', and the other two
>>might be more complex. But
>>I'm learning all the time.
>>
>>
>>I'm looking forward to V4.
>>
>>There are now several authors working
>>on UK routes. NW Trains
>>have a good one, which
>>looks as if it might
>>come close to yours sometime.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>David
>
>
>How can you tell the difference
>between v1.1 and v2?
Forget V1.1.
You need v2 (modernen.zip) and the update V3 (modeng3.zip)You will have to uninstall v1.1 before installing V2 and V3Regards,David
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downside (477 posts)
Jan-08-02, 04:32 PM (EST) 20. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >NW Trains have a good one, which looks as if it might come >close to yours sometime.I would have agreed if it were not for the fact that there is a message on their site that they have closed down.Bill
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hanstatdg (19 posts)
Jan-09-02, 06:03 AM (EST) 21. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >>NW Trains have a good one, which looks as if it might come >close to yours sometime.
>
>I would have agreed if it
>were not for the fact
>that there is a message
>on their site that they
>have closed down.
>
>Bill That's a shame, because they were very good, and showed real promise. But it obviously involves a lot of work, and I can well understand that Gerald Morris couldn't keep it going.David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
hanstatdg (19 posts)
Jan-09-02, 11:38 AM (EST) 22. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >>NW Trains have a good one, which looks as if it might come >close to yours sometime.
>
>I would have agreed if it
>were not for the fact
>that there is a message
>on their site that they
>have closed down.
>
>Bill You're already out of date, Bill. I'm pleased to inform you and everyone else that the NWTrains site is now available temporarily onhttp://northwesttrains.bravepages.com/and this will change within the next few days to a permanent site athttp://www.nwtrains.orgRegards,David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
downside (477 posts)
Jan-09-02, 12:04 PM (EST) 23. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-02 AT 12:06 PM (EST)That's good news but I have my doubts they will be going back to the .org site having only just left it due to the costs involved becoming unmanageable - a problem we have seen many sites face recently. Looking at their forum it seems evident that the route is to be uploaded to UKtrainsim and that their present site is to be used for the virtual railway company only. It is also mentioned that the virtual railway is looking for a new home - geocities is mentioned.Bill
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hanstatdg (19 posts)
Jan-09-02, 07:40 PM (EST) 24. "RE: ModernEngland 3 - Problems" >LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-02
>AT 12:06 PM (EST)
>
>That's good news but I have
>my doubts they will be
>going back to the .org
>site having only just left
>it due to the costs
>involved becoming unmanageable - a
>problem we have seen many
>sites face recently.
>
>Looking at their forum it seems
>evident that the route is
>to be uploaded to UKtrainsim
>and that their present site
>is to be used for
>the virtual railway company only.
>It is also mentioned that
>the virtual railway is looking
>for a new home -
>geocities is mentioned.
>
>BillThis is what Gerald Morris wrote to me yesterday:"Good News regarding NWtrains and website.
The website is now at http://northwesttrains.bravepages.com
This gives me 250mb of website instead of the 50mb that was the maximum on the old web server which was soon eaten up by the route files.
This will change within the next 7days to the
http://www.nwtrains.orgwhen the domain change is completed.The routes will be put up on UKTrainsim.comAndy Malcolm is arranging that the has a broadband connection, luckly bloke.So every thing should be back to normal within 10-14 days, I hope."I hope this clarifies the situation.David Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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