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I have downloaded and installed the route for Modern England3. I find that many of the crossing gates open and close the wrong way. When traveling through a crossing, many times the gates close on the train instead of the highway traffic that it's intended for. I was wondering if anyone else are experiencing this and if there is a correction.

Ron

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Hi,As I remember well, there is a correction here in the file library.Dick van den Hoven

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The file you need is ukcross.zip.
Bob

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Its better but it is still wrong. The gates open towards the cars, not across the track.David

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Thanks everyone. I downloaded ukcross.zip and applied it only to Modern England 3. Everything seems to be working correctly now. I did not apply it to the default routes since they seem to be working correctly.

Ron

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You may like to look at the default Settle/Carlisle then, where the crossings are totally wrong. Ukcross zip does a partial correction, but it is still wrong, the gates are supposed to go across the track, when open to cars. Settle /Carlisle 1930 is the only route that has the gates opening correctly.David

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Here in the US, we don't have that problem because our gates go up and down!

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True, but we are talking old routes here, and to be honest, I haven't got a clue about what the current UK crossings do, even though I have one within a half mile of me! I avoid that road! I know a lot of them also go up, but I expect there are still little used tracks that have the old system. Not so long ago, they were still opened and closed by hand! LOL
David

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Hi,Back in the 50's when I was at a boarding school just outside Canterbury (on the Whitstable road, just outside the City boundary) I often walked down to town and had to cross one of those level crossing with the gates. In this case, they were operated by a man who had a trackside hut near by. He had to move all 4 gate from across the tracks (thereby providing a fairly good protection agains trespass on the track) to across the road, which blocked all traffic. Last time I was back in Canterbury (just over 3 years ago) they had been replace by the more modern gates which raise and lower by remote control. These are automated so that they open as the train approaches. If I remember correctly, they differed from the N. American level crossing by having gates across both sides of the road, as compared to the half-barries over here. This does prevent vehicles from trying to get round the gates (which some idiots sometimes try to do), but doesn't allow for an escape route if a car is part way across the level crossing when the gates come down.On the default Settle-Carlisle, the gates where quite screwy to start with. Applying the fix will, as David mentioned, partly correct that. I understand that the remaining problem - the gates open away from the track when the train has gone past - is due to the gates being installed on the wrong side of the road.CheersJohn

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John- Small world! I live 15 miles from Canterbury now and last year spent some time watching the steam-hauled "Cathedrals Express" passing over that very level crossing on it's way to and from Canterbury from London on several occasions. You're right about the full skirts on the gates- these seem to be mandatory on gates here located on busy main roads. I remember whilst at school the local station-master giving us all a talk on how the soon-to-be-installed automatic gates (also full skirt) at Sandwich would operate. This was in 1962 so I guess the Canterbury ones were installed about the same time.Cheers, Nick (UK)

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Hi Nick,Small World indeed. And another of the members here live not very far from where I now live. JonN lives in the same town that I live in, and if my guess is right about his approximate location, only a few minutes drive from my home.I was at school in the 50's - I can remember seeing the rails still in place on the Canterbury-Whitstable line, just after it had been shut down!. In those days I was a boarder at Kent College, at the juncion of the Whitstable Road and Rough Common Road. I was also back in Canterbury for a while in the 60's as a student at Christ Church College when it was new - I was in the 3rd intake of students. That would be Sept 1965. I definately remember the old gates being in place at when in the 50's but I just don't remember for sure what was there in the 60's, but I don't think they had the modern drop-barriers then. Actually, in my previous post I wasn't thinking about the skirted barriers (I don't particularly remember noticing that detail when I was there 3 years ago). What I was comparing was the N. American practice of having the barrier close only across the approach side of the road (right side here, left side for you) while leaving the side of the road which would be exiting the crossing unprotected. That allows any vehicle caught in the crossing when the gates close to be able to exit. It also allows idiots to attempt to drive around the gates - much to the chagrin of the train drivers (our gates close with not very much time between closing and train crossing). CheersJohn

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