Australia's version of Big Boy

LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-02 AT 05:48 AM (EDT)

G'day
Well i was going through some stuff at home and have a look at what i found

How cool would it have been to see one of these running up the Mountain with a nice long coal train behind it.Gavin Woolf
ausgav15@hotmail.com
http://www.planb.com.au/oz/index.html

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Australia's version of Big Boy [View All], Gavin, 05:37 AM, Aug-14-02, (0) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Gavin, Aug-14-02, 05:48 AM, (1) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-14-02, 06:11 AM, (2) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, bcdef, Aug-14-02, 08:35 AM, (3) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Gavin, Aug-15-02, 02:24 AM, (4) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-15-02, 08:17 AM, (5) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-15-02, 08:32 AM, (6) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-15-02, 09:04 AM, (7) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-16-02, 03:02 AM, (8) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-16-02, 03:15 AM, (9) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-16-02, 03:38 AM, (10) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Kombatant, Aug-16-02, 07:03 AM, (13) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-16-02, 08:05 AM, (15) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Kombatant, Aug-16-02, 10:14 AM, (19) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, jm1941, Aug-16-02, 05:00 AM, (11) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-16-02, 06:30 AM, (12) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-16-02, 07:31 AM, (14) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-16-02, 08:33 AM, (16) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-16-02, 08:59 AM, (17) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-16-02, 10:05 AM, (18) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-16-02, 10:30 AM, (20) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-16-02, 10:38 AM, (22) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, msavianney, Aug-16-02, 09:30 PM, (24) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, tulloch_, Aug-17-02, 01:26 AM, (25) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Kombatant, Aug-16-02, 10:37 AM, (21) RE: Australia's version of Big Boy, Rodman 93, Aug-16-02, 08:22 PM, (23)

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who knows, i might even attempt to build it.Gavin Woolf
ausgav15@hotmail.com
http://www.planb.com.au/oz/index.html

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Dear Gavin,Would be great if we had one of those on our lines. However i just need you to tell me if this is correct. A. was this the design the abondoned on favour of the "immortal" C-38s?????? (3801 is my fav NSW loco)b. were these loco's designed to be more powerful than the massive AD-60 garratt????? I saw 6029 when i was in canberra and was blown away by its size.andc. i'm not sure, but i read somewhere b4 the 38's were built there was talk of a streamlined passenger garratt.i would appreciate if you could provide an answer to one/all of my questions.Cheers,Rodman93

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hey!
Big Boy would be about as long as that loco and tender man!
why not just have Big Boy? :)
love showing of my Fav Railroad the Union Pacific!
if you do decide to build it i am with ya! PEACE Love Freedom

Peace OUT

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Rodman93,A:I don't know if this design was abondoned in favour of the C38s, i think it was just a proposed locomotive.B:The loco was designed way before the AD-60 hit the line's and i think it was just an inprovement on the D57. C. i don't think there was ever talk about a streamlined Garratt before the 38's came out, but i could be wrong.I hope this helps youGavin Woolf
ausgav15@hotmail.com
http://www.planb.com.au/oz/index.html

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tulloch_
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Aug-15-02, 08:17 AM (EDT)

5. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #4

Gavin,A. I'll see what I can find out.B. I'll see what I can find out.C. I'll see what I can find out.Now, I like to say this.Give me a garratt anyday over any other NSWGR steam loco.
Regards,Ben

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That wouldn't be the Ad-60 Garratt in Dorrigo would it tulloch??
Cheers,Rodman93

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tulloch_
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Aug-15-02, 09:04 AM (EDT)

7. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #6

Is it possible at all to trick you?


Regards,BenP.S.I'm not on MSN because my brothing is being a stupid little ****

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Easy peasy, Puffing Billy, Na 6 or 7 in the dandenong ranges Victoria AustraliaCheers,Rodman 93

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Dear Tulloch a teaser for you know, name the 3 loco types and what state they are from and are currently in, n.b its not QLD
Have fun,
Rodman 93

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tulloch_
Charter Member

Aug-16-02, 03:38 AM (EDT)

10. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #9

Well Rodman 93,The picture was taken in Victoria.The lead loco is a QLD PB15.
The middle loco is a TAS M6.
The trailing loco is a WA something.Here is my pic (after this, there is a HARD one)

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Seeing as they are all 3'6'' gauge locos im guessing they would have to be in a state with a narrow gauge network. Hmm looks cold - maybe Tasmania? BTW Rodman is the picture in your sig of the double BB18 trip earlier this year?

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yeh its the double betty trip to toowoomba earlier this year, did you ride it???? i certainly did, it was great, my avatar image is also another QLD loco, PB17 738 at rosewood
cheers,Rodman 93

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Yeh i was on that trip too!...i dont get to go on many of the excursions so i enjoyed it. They seem to use the bettys a lot like on the city circle sundays. I havent been to Rosewood for a long time now, but one thing im looking forward to is the opening of the Workshops Museum here in Ipswich...have u heard they are having a train simulator inside a diesel cab?

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> Give me a garratt anyday over any other NSWGR steam loco. Well what about this one Ben.
Which state in Oz is she from.
Beautiful isn't she, real poetry in motion and to hear her in action would blow your mind.

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To answer both questions.Ben its a Commonwealth Railways Locomotive i think a C or CL class clyde productjim its a 400 class garratt from south australiacheers,Rodman 93

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tulloch_
Charter Member

Aug-16-02, 07:31 AM (EDT)

14. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #12

Rodman,Yes it is a CR loco (rather a ex CR loco), but you got the class wrong (and you didn't give a location).Jim, it is a SAR garratt (I knew that, Rodman beat me to telling you thou).

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Tulloch,Its GM class clyde diesel that was rebulit by clyde and now shunts at their kelso works.Now a few Teasers for Lucky Tulloch,
I want you to LIST the class numbers of EVERY loco plus its number (ie 48 or 1176) and if possible location .have fun,Rodman 93 Pic 1
PIC 2
PIC 3
PIC 4
pic 5 (If you get it wrong i will shoot you)
Pic 6 (hard)
pic 7
Pic 8

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tulloch_
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Aug-16-02, 08:59 AM (EDT)

17. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #16

Lucky Rodman,Here are the answers,1: 1720 class, 1720D and 3900 class 3921
2: EMU number 42
3: Give me a break (it is QLD)!
4: Give me a break (it is QLD)!
5: NRR's (now INTERAIL) 42109 and another 421 hauling a RitzRail train.
6: EMU number ??
7: 3900class 3921
8: IMU number 122Now, my picture!!!!
(location and loco)

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tulloch_
Charter Member

Aug-16-02, 10:05 AM (EDT)

18. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #17

Yes, that was a little hard.Here is something EASIER.I want a YEAR, LOCOs, and LOCATION.

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Ok its a 81 class diesel the blue one 8184, The red on is GM 3, The green one is 42 class 4201 trhe 125 anniversary diesel and the brown one is 43 class. this photo was taken near enfield at deltec in sydney in 1996. i think we can call this compitetiona draw tullochRodman 93

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tulloch_
Charter Member

Aug-16-02, 10:38 AM (EDT)

22. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #20

Yes, it is a draw.
Now Rodman, IMPROVE YOUR SPELLING!!!It is DELEC not DELTEC , but apart from that, everything is right.Cheers,Ben
P.S.
My picture of the garratt in my sig (like my XPT and builders plate) how about it?

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-16-02 AT 09:33 PM (EDT)

Hey Ben,Is that taken at Walhalla? Is the loco ex-SEC? Just a guess...I've also heard of proposals for a NSWGR streamlined Garratt, which was a proposal based upon a similar locomotive built for (I think) the Algerian railways in the late thirties. The Algerian loco apparently had alot of the Chapelon improvements, but the streamlining mainly referred to the tanks, IIRC. I saw a model in (I think) AMRM a few years ago of a Garratt with streamlining a la 3801, complete with pinstriping. Interesting idea.Cheers,
Matt

Milwaukee Electric Lines

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tulloch_
Charter Member

Aug-17-02, 01:26 AM (EDT)

25. "RE: Australia's version of Big Boy"
In response to message #24

Yes, I think it was taken at Walhalla. As to the loco, I don't know.I have a few more pitures of the line and loco if anyone wants to see them.

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I'll try and have a crack at the locations to add to Tullochs list.1- 3921+1728D at somewhere on the NCL (maybe north of Gympie?)
2- EMU42 on Rosewood shuttle (maybe about Walloon/Thagoona)
3- 2121F im taking a wild guess at Maryborough West
4- 23?? with maybe Inlander or Sunlander at Townsville?
5- same as Tulloch
6- EMU?? on Rosewood shuttle
7- 3921 looking the other direction from pic3
8- IMU122 at the commissioning track after being built at Walkers

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Now I will answer,Pic 1 is near marybrough, correct loco'sPic 2 is at walloon, correct locoPic 3 Is 2121F at amryborough west, correct locoPic 4 is 2390 with the spirit of the tropics just a few kilometres dsouth of townsvillepic 6 EMU 27 east of walloonPic 7 is at maryborough west, correct locopic 8 IMU 122 at maryborough westRodman93

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