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As suggested by CPR_Malice, I think we should nominate persons that we find would make good moderators on the BVE board.Rules:1. You may not nominate yourself.
2. You may, at most, nominate two (2) persons. Do so in the same post.
3. Give at least two (2) reasons why the person or persons you are nominating would be good moderators.
4. The nominations shall be open for a period of five (5) days from the time of posting, at which time the request/suggestion will be made to Nels Anderson to give this person's account moderator status on this board only.
5. The five (5) persons with the most votes in this thread will be placed into a poll. Everyone can vote for who they think is best out of the given five (5) members within the poll.
6. Please reply in the format below:Username of First Nominee
-Reason 1
-Reason 2Username of Second Nominee (if applicable)
-Reason 1
-Reason 2Please remember, whoever is chosen will be making some certain descisions on behalf of the community, so nominate wisely.Now... let the nominations begin! EDIT: This is not in poll form because if I am to make a poll I must name names, and it should be open to anyone in the first leg.Tim Frost
NVTA Subway routes for BVE:
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Nominations for BVE Board Moderator [View All], Tim Frost, 04:55 AM, Apr-21-03, (0) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, D2UK JLE Line, Apr-21-03, 05:03 AM, (1) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, mailer_diablo, Apr-21-03, 05:04 AM, (3) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, etjason, Apr-21-03, 10:39 AM, (13) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Tim Frost, Apr-21-03, 05:04 AM, (2) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, mailer_diablo, Apr-21-03, 05:08 AM, (4) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Barney, Apr-21-03, 05:11 AM, (5) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, mjspeed, Apr-21-03, 07:43 AM, (6) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, retro_kid, Apr-21-03, 07:50 AM, (7) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 08:36 AM, (8) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Routemaster J, Apr-21-03, 12:29 PM, (26) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, turbodeas, Apr-21-03, 09:17 AM, (9) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Piccadilly_Line, Apr-21-03, 09:37 AM, (10) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Stooopid_person, Apr-21-03, 10:08 AM, (11) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, mailer_diablo, Apr-21-03, 11:14 AM, (15) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, ChristopherT, Apr-21-03, 10:20 AM, (12) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 11:11 AM, (14) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Thomas Corcoran, Apr-21-03, 11:27 AM, (16) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, petermakosch, Apr-21-03, 11:40 AM, (18) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, JulieADriver, Apr-21-03, 11:36 AM, (17) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Thomas Corcoran, Apr-21-03, 11:44 AM, (19) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, mailer_diablo, Apr-21-03, 11:48 AM, (20) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 11:52 AM, (21) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Stooopid_person, Apr-22-03, 06:32 AM, (44) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-22-03, 06:51 AM, (45) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Stooopid_person, Apr-22-03, 06:55 AM, (46) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, kevarc, Apr-21-03, 11:52 AM, (22) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 11:55 AM, (23) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, kevarc, Apr-21-03, 12:15 PM, (25) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, mailer_diablo, Apr-21-03, 12:01 PM, (24) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, kevarc, Apr-21-03, 12:32 PM, (27) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 12:41 PM, (28) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Routemaster J, Apr-21-03, 12:49 PM, (29) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, davereage, Apr-21-03, 01:36 PM, (30) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Piccadilly_Line, Apr-21-03, 03:21 PM, (31) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, CRSD40, Apr-21-03, 03:37 PM, (32) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, AlphaMaster, Apr-21-03, 03:47 PM, (33) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Stooopid_person, Apr-23-03, 06:02 AM, (48) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, ATF1224, Apr-21-03, 03:47 PM, (34) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, TomBoyRacer, Apr-21-03, 07:14 PM, (35) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 07:57 PM, (36) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, etjason, Apr-21-03, 08:07 PM, (37) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 08:24 PM, (38) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, CPR_Malice_96th, Apr-21-03, 08:44 PM, (39) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, ChristopherT, Apr-21-03, 08:55 PM, (40) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-21-03, 09:13 PM, (41) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, abarten, Apr-21-03, 09:17 PM, (42) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Central trains, Apr-22-03, 04:02 AM, (43) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, leezer3, Apr-22-03, 01:43 PM, (47) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, D2UK JLE Line, Apr-23-03, 08:08 AM, (49) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, petermakosch, Apr-23-03, 08:31 AM, (50) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, mailer_diablo, Apr-23-03, 08:34 AM, (51) RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator, Wulf_9, Apr-23-03, 09:16 AM, (52)

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Shouldn't this be in a poll-style thread?

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It will be when the mod-to-be people is short-listed to 5.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/rogorox/

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etjason
Member since Jun-11-03

Apr-21-03, 10:39 AM (EDT)

13. "RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator"
In response to message #1

Wolf For reasons already mentioned
Tim Frost also for reason mentionedAlso they already are working together and are in good contact with each other. Plus each is 12 hours apart from each other living on other sides of the pond which will mean someone is on line at all times.jason

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Wulf_9
-Anas would not have been a problem had he been a mod.
-He has no hesitation in doing what needs to be done, yet does so with a sense of humour that can't be beat! Tim Frost
NVTA Subway routes for BVE:
http://nvta.co.uk

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-21-03 AT 05:11 AM (EDT)

My Nominee is Philip. (Stooopid_person)- The first reason I would like to say is that he is rather active. If anything goes wrong, he can quickly be there to take a look at the situation.- The second reason is strange, but yes, it is because he is not famous for any routes/trains yet. This is based from a previous incident at Train-Sim.com where a rogue mod went on a power-trip because he was made one for his fame/works. (If I remember correctly)- He was originally nominated as a moderator when plans for a BVE Forum were in place back then.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/rogorox/

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Good luck to those who take on the job. Both Vern and I know very well how hard is to deal with some of the kids that invade BVE forum regularly. Let's hope the chosen mods will have an easier task in front of them.

Barney
www.CroTrainz.com

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Tim Frost
- Willing to take action when problems occur (voluntarily closed website in support of Wulf as an example)
- Has shown himself to be able to see both points of view in an argument. Thats important in moderation

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-21-03 AT 07:51 AM (EDT)

Wulf
1) He dont take no s**t
2) Very responsible..::Retro Kid::..

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stooopid
1) he's always here, got an eye for detail, a long memory and takes no crap
2) he was nominated previously and got passed over for a totally ridiculous reason (the mods objected to his username...I ask you!)mailer_diablo
1)part of the nvta clan and a good observer of people
2) same as stoopid's reason (2)CiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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>stooopid
>1) he's always here, got an eye for detail, a long memory and takes no crap
>2) he was nominated previously and got passed over for a totally ?ridiculous reason (the mods objected to his username...I ask you!)
>mailer_diablo>
>1)part of the nvta clan and a good observer of people
>2) same as stoopid's reason (2)yes these two and you WULF!!I think you would make good mods here!

Joshim,
currently constructing the DLR Route for BVE & Oxford Street BUS ROUTE! Check out my website http://joshimsbveroutes.gamehorizons.net/

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turbodeas
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Apr-21-03, 09:17 AM (EDT)

9. "RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator"
In response to message #0

Hi all, I'm nominating these two:1. Tim Frost >he's super organised, knows whats what and seems perfectly aware of all the goings on in the BVE community
2. Wulf >Wulf would be there to get rid of the cr** that floats around on this board, and is not afraid to simply exterminate some people!

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Wulf :
* Would be no problems with Anus had it not been for him
* He takes no rubbishPhillip :* Always online
* Previously nominated
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Tom Beevers
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-21-03 AT 10:10 AM (EDT)

Maybe Mailer Diablo
He has experience in moderating in the TOC Game forum.
He was also one of the orignally picked mods(but due to username problems...)
If the above is not a good reason, he also stays up till 2 a.m. to see the forums...I may nominate more... But I have to think first... PS Mailer Diablo, the mods power-trip was not fame. Once he became a mod, he started pulling everyone over with oversized signature, even though his own one was oversized as well...

--You are reading my signature now, don't waste your time reading it!--
Eh, where did my signature go?
Oh, here it is, the one you are reading right now? Can't you see it?
Told you not waste time reading my signature! You have just wasted 5 seconds!

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>PS Mailer Diablo, the mods power-trip was not fame. Once he
>became a mod, he started pulling everyone over with
>oversized signature, even though his own one was oversized
>as well... LOL right, maybe it's a case of pot calling the kettle black, I wondered how he mananged to pull me over just because I exceeded the limit with...4 pixels? (Must have hawk eyes!)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/rogorox/

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Actually I emailed Nels' yesterday and suggested Wulf_9 and
Al Barten. Both have a good name in the BVE community and
experience. Christopher

Christopher Tarana
Ferroequinologist

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Is Al here then? Haven't seen much posting....CiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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Well i would nominate Wulf cos he is a respected member of the community and take no prisoners or Phil because he is always and has a very good memory.Plus he can relate to the idiots wot with being Extra stooopid

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OK, not to "wee on your fire" but, is the mod going to take any attention to this? Probably not.
I actually emailled the author of train-sim.com with a suggestion to make it better, IE mod's.
I have not had a reply, and quite frankly, do not expect one.

><> Pete <><
Do you even know what this: <>< is? What it means? Do you even care?

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I nominate Wulf and Tim for all the reasons stated previously.

Julie Anne Driver
julieanne.driver@verizon.net

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Well I did email nels and I did get a reply and I wasnt going to post this. I emailed him regarding the Anus situation and got this replyIf the forum is so bad, why is it that not one person has ever sent me
an alert about a bad message? NOT ONE! There's an alert link next to
every single message. If there is a problem, use it! Otherwise, don't
expect anything from the moderators.

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The Alert button doesn't work I think?

http://koti.mbnet.fi/rogorox/

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Yes it does I just tried itSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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>Yes it does I just tried it No, it doesn't. If you click it, it will give you the form. That's working. But after filling in the form, and submitting, it will give you some rubbish errors. This problem I think started last year, or I think a few months after the forum was upgraded.

--You are reading my signature now, don't waste your time reading it!--
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Oh, here it is, the one you are reading right now? Can't you see it?
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Good! So Nels getting in a strop about not using it is..... not applicable I hope?CiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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>Good! So Nels getting in a strop about not using it is.....
>not applicable I hope? ???

--You are reading my signature now, don't waste your time reading it!--
Eh, where did my signature go?
Oh, here it is, the one you are reading right now? Can't you see it?
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I have been watching this forum as I find it interesting but not enough to dl and install BVE, plus I look at all the forums. Now for my 2 cents worth. It may be best to try to find someone who is not involved with BVE. There have been problems with a mod who was involed with both skinning and a mod. There have been times I found a serious conflict of interest that occured. Even with the best of intentions, those with a vested interest do tend to shade their views. I hope that this would happen, it might be best to get a third party for it.Kevin Arceneaux
DEFAULT IS FOR DUMMIES
Cry havoc and Let slip the dogs of war.
Lone Wolf Activities Forum and Activity Packs are on www.3DTrains.com

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The trouble with that is, I don't believe that person would have the perspective required in the event of, say, arbitrating a dispute about object use or other permission-type stuff, you have to appreciate a system from the inside to understand its true workings and make the most enlightened decisons.... IMHO CiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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That is not the mods job here. They are only to keep the peace and some semblance of decency. But even then that would still be better for a third party to be the mod.For example:
Person A, a mod, is working with or friends with Person B. A whatever erupts, how impartial can person A be?Kevin Arceneaux
DEFAULT IS FOR DUMMIES
Cry havoc and Let slip the dogs of war.
Lone Wolf Activities Forum and Activity Packs are on www.3DTrains.com

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This exactly points out my second reason for giving my vote to Philip.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/rogorox/

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I have to agree with you, nothwithstanding his screen name, he is far from stupid and has a good understanding on how things work. He would be a good choice.Kevin Arceneaux
DEFAULT IS FOR DUMMIES
Cry havoc and Let slip the dogs of war.
Lone Wolf Activities Forum and Activity Packs are on www.3DTrains.com

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May I be totally frank?Ok, I disagree completely with this idea, and here is my reason :-The "inner workings" of a Bve community depend on many subtle balances, not all of which are apparent unless you know some practices involved with it. The fact that all the forum admins require is a person to 'police' the area is irrelevant to the needs of a safe and permanent community spirit, and this is where the inside knowledge can make the difference between the right and the wrong decision, since everyone is more inclined to bow to the advice of one of their own; I think (unless it's stooopid himself) a non-bve developer would not be able to do this convincingly. What this actual forum, not any other, but this one, needs is someone with the eyes of a hawk, a will of iron and a good dollop of magnanimity and humour. We can be very happy here, and productive, look at the sea change that has come over the place since the nameless one was binned, do you want to put all this burgeoning talent in the hands of one who is not concerned with the finer points? I hope not, else I withdraw from the nominations. You need passion and dedication here, I hope whoever is selected has it in spades, trouble is never far away and if we are to protect and survive then actions must be swift, immediate and popular. Nuff said CiaoCiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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It is for this reason I say Phillip (stooopid), and Mailer D should take up the task, Stoopis is persistent and alway stops things, and Mailer D does a fantastic job over at the TOC game message board!And Wulf you would be good too, actually think abouts how you managed to annoy Anas!But I do think we are all good moderators ourselves?! Just remember United we stand Divided we fall. We all united against that troll Anas and we got him out!

Joshim,
currently constructing the DLR Route for BVE & Oxford Street BUS ROUTE! Check out my website http://joshimsbveroutes.gamehorizons.net/

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My feeling is that Brian (Macster) would make a good moderator for this forum (if he's willing to take it on). He has already proven himself to be a capable moderator and he was instrumental in getting this forum set up in the first place.

Dave Reage
www.geocities.com/d_reage

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Have to say stooopid does know the inner workings of BVE, as anyone watching a certain topic on the LU + Rail forums may have figured out by now.--
Tom Beevers
http://brj.rr.nu

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-21-03 AT 03:37 PM (EDT)

Danny Swartz (alphamaster)

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Brian (Macster)

Danny - Pittsburgh

There's a light at the end of every tunnel, just pray it's not a train.
http://clanswl.mowshed.com/

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>Have to say stooopid does know the inner workings of BVE, as
>anyone watching a certain topic on the LU + Rail forums may
>have figured out by now. But, not everyone(people like Joshim, Zazzy_bob) sees the other forums besides the BVE one...

--You are reading my signature now, don't waste your time reading it!--
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Oh, here it is, the one you are reading right now? Can't you see it?
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I vote for Alphamaster and Macster

The Norfolk Southern Winston-Salem District

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Well, I would have loved to have been a mod here, but seeing as I've only been here for a few days, and I really don't have time... etc
I nominate Wulf
why?
He stands up for himself.
The quality of his work is excellent
he had the sense to use a Deltic as his avatar before I did!!!

How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your meat?

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LOL Tom Thanks! CiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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etjason
Member since Jun-11-03

Apr-21-03, 08:07 PM (EDT)

37. "RE: Nominations for BVE Board Moderator"
In response to message #36

Too-Late one has been appointed already!Check the Lobby.Jason

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Not so Jason,Chris T was one already (unless I am severely mistaken?)Saxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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Kevin ArcenauxTim Kent
96th_Malice
" Power for You "

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"Not so Jason,
Chris T was one already (unless I am severely mistaken?)" The list of mods I got from Nels today was Wulf_9, Alfred Barten,
Peter Makosch, and myself. That's provided you guys email
Nels and accept. I sent emails from everyone's site except
Peter's. Christopher

Christopher Tarana
Ferroequinologist

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'Tis done CiaoSaxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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Yeah, I'm here, but not that much. I would only take a mod position if you were desperate, and it doesn't appear that you are. Thanks, anyway.Cheers, Al
http://alfredbarten.com

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Wulf!can i say more. he would get the job done and follow up on leads to suspects no more saidJoin the TOC Game
http://koti.mbnet.fi/rogoroxAlso download my route for bve from www.geocities.com/bve_midlands

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Wulf_9: Always ready to step in with the calm voice of reason! (He's even prepared to suspend his own development in protest! )Chris Leeshttp://bvecornwall.cjb.net -BVE Cornwall: Providing QUALITY Steam for BVE!

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Wulf_9! Because he is so wise and clever!

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for people still adding to this topic:Wulf_9 has been appointed.No-more will be needed at this time.

><> Pete <><
Do you even know what this: <>< is? What it means? Do you even care?

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>for people still adding to this topic: Solution - Lock this topic, it has served its purpose.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/rogorox/

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Yeah, fair comment *CLICK*Saxon Locomotive Works - "The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer"http://www.zodiac-infosystems.co.uk/rail/bve

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