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ashiva1313Charter Member · 56 postsDec 5, 2002 12:02 AM

I am on the BN route between Springfield, and Tulsa, and today just west of Springfield, a 4 engine train went through.
In the lead was a blue, cab forward, had lots of glass
and on the side it said CEFX with the number 2016 under it.
this is the second time I have seen it here, but didnt realize it was 'living' on this route..looked like the nost of a GP... but...
Any IDEAS??? Thanks...

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andrewpickellCharter Member · 321 postsDec 5, 2002 12:45 AM

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CEFX is the railway leasing portion of CIT Group/Capital Finance. Railways can lease a locomotive from them, and then return when they are finished. They also lease railway cars.Try a search for CEFX you might come up with a roster of their locomotives.- Andrew

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ashiva1313Charter Member · 56 postsDec 5, 2002 1:12 AM

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YES.... THANKS.... EMD GP20...heres a picture if anyone is interested..
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kwk100Charter Member · 776 postsDec 5, 2002 1:39 AM

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What is EMD doing to the locomotive! God that is ugly!!This is kwk100 and I'm 10-10 on the side.KWK100's GE Locomotive Rebuilding Updates (Dec. 03/2002):GE 44 Tonner V2.00 nearing completion, working on attaching all the parts and animation. GE logo and name property of General Electric, I have no relation to GE.

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sswCharter Member · 697 postsDec 5, 2002 1:51 AM

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you mean GP20D? SLIGHT difference.

Bradley Linda
Waco, Texas

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ssw_96Charter Member · 457 postsDec 5, 2002 2:24 AM

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They kinda remind me of the MK1200C's. The ATSF and UP had them. Now its the GP15/20D. It is kinda ugly, but crews like the cab. The ones that the PTRA of Texas has, they sound like a lawn mower or tractor, or a 18 wheeler. Guess it was that CAT motor. If you think thats ugly, you should see the "green goat"

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rockislandCharter Member · 147 postsDec 5, 2002 4:04 AM

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The American diesel locomotive tends to get uglier and less interesting to watch with each successive generation. We started out with the classic F/E unit carbody and have now degenerated to this. Where will it all end? How ugly can we make them? Is there no place for aesthetics in the locomotive marketplace? I fear, gentlemen, that this is probably not the worst we can do. But it is beginning to push the envelope.ROCK

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ashiva1313Charter Member · 56 postsDec 5, 2002 5:39 PM

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for what purpose? in the late 40's and 50's, they worried about 'streamlined'- IE air resistance...
smoother meant less power needed, and easier at speed
now, they got POWER- does it matter they are pushing a flat wall at 60 MPH? not really...cause the major wind resistance is the small front of the engine...yes the cars have some but not that much- so its no longer a matter...
PLUS to make streamlined, means forming curves, which means more body work and expense...

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henry3Charter Member · 1276 postsDec 5, 2002 9:43 PM

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In addition, I've heard that the configuration of the GP15D/GP20D (and the MK1200C as well) offers *excellent* all-around views with regard to switching moves. From a safety and efficiency point of view, this is simply a case of function dictating form.Henry

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ssw_96Charter Member · 457 postsDec 5, 2002 9:56 PM

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Mr. Rockisland,
Railroads are not concerned about "looks pleasing to the eye" They are more focused on efficiency, reliability, horsepower for its intended service, and several other things. They could really care less about what you or I think about their engines/paintschemes. They do however offer good all around visibility and have comfortable seats, heat, AC and crews seem to like them, so I guess thats what matters.

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Nels_AndersonCharter Member · 681 postsDec 5, 2002 11:15 PM

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Some locomotives are still being designed to be streamlined.Like the Genesis for example, but boy are those things ugly too...

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StumblCharter Member · 673 postsDec 5, 2002 11:59 PM

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ugly is fun
i fit right in

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"I do what my Rice Krispies tell me to do"

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CSX_dudeMember since Nov-10-02 · 63 postsDec 6, 2002 2:05 AM

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I think the GP-20D looks preety cool, and man how can you say that bout the Genesis?They look so awsome! Especially in the New Haven livery with the matching red striped coaches.csx_dudeRiverline for ever!

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